Comment by Flax@feddit.uk on Reproductive Fights

“leave it at protests” as if they aren’t already mass murdering children

I prefer to go by what the Bible says. Which is that abortion is just fine and God even performs them!

But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

That’s about infertility. The NIV isn’t a very good translation and focuses less on what the text actually says and easy readability. A more accurate translation is the NRSV (although the ESV or even the KJV doesn’t make this mistake- although it depends on whether you want to translate “thigh” as “womb” or literally render it, as thigh is a euphemism. However, the word “miscarry” in the sense that we understand it is not there)

[27] When he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall discharge, her uterus drop, and the woman shall become an execration among her people. [28] But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be immune and be able to conceive children.

Verse 28 says “be able to conceive children”. It’s quite clear that she wasn’t already pregnant at this point.

It’s always endlessly fascinating to me how “fundamentalists” think God speaks in metaphor only when it’s convenient for them personally.

Dude what, no, it’s saying hey if you’re not preggers you can still make a baby. If you’ve “defiled [your]self” then you’re gonna have an abortion when you drink that water. Very explicitly that’s what is being communicated through the text.

Dancing around translations is just some hand waving bullshit, also maybe we should consider the text isn’t some infallible word of God when you’re saying a different translation changes the meaning of passages. Just as an aside.

I just picked the first translation the Google search gave. Feel free to read your same thing phrased some other way in another translation.

Besides that is the only thing the Bible actually says about abortion. The anti abortion stuff is a very modern thing.

That’s not up to you. All scripture is God breathed. Are you saying that God would allow his one and only true word to be mistranslated so poorly? Shame on you.

It is obviously both. A woman could be pregnant or not and the same thing would happen either forcing a miscarriage (aka an abortion) or become infertile. There is no where that indicates the woman’s current state of pregnancy or lack thereof so it must be both.

it takes balls to post stuff like that on Lemmy, and I commend you for it. also, I agree with you. so there’s that.

you just proved why it takes balls.

it totally takes balls. and people like you are the reason why.

We get it. You like balls

Gargle gargle nothing gargle wrong with that

in a world where most people don’t have them, yes. yes I do.

Having such a vulnerable weak point be both easily accessible and unprotected is a design flaw.

somebody thinks movies are real life. have you ever tried to kick somebody in the balls? its not actually that easy, and its not actually that vulnerable. there’s a reason all the wars of human history haven’t just been giant crotch-kicking competitions lmfao. If it was that simple, men would not be the warriors.

On the flip side, you could say being smaller and weaker (as all women are) is a design flaw. Oh how the tables have turned my impulsively naive friend.

Well when they are as small as yours, it becomes really hard to hit that target with a kick.

Unsure is /s, but doesn’t seem like it.

Reproductive health advocates are not mass murdering children. You’re thinking of guns, drugs, and cars if you are in the USA, cancer and other genetic defects if in the UK.

All of those things are mass murdering children

We get it, you don’t have any scientific knowledge and only go by what religion “says”

The Bible is pro abortion anyway so they have nothing

Exactly. That’s what makes their attempts to argue so ridiculous.

Scientific knowledge shows that a foetus is a life

That isn’t relevant, though.

Scientific knowledge shows that a fetus is a lump of cells with no more consciousness than an amoeba that can’t exist without the host which makes it closer to a parasite. That’s not a baby or a person. You need to actually be able to understand more than a one sentence statement to grasp the vast majority of scientific knowledge.

The word you are looking for is ‘fetuses’.

K. I’m going to get back to work for my company that is mass murdering children by lowering employee reproductive health. (/s)

Your taxes may also go towards murdering kids, whether it be state funded abortions or bombing Gaza

Those two examples are wildly different from eachother. One is a medical procedure involving theoretical children, and the other has real kids getting injured and killed.

Edit: wanted to add that the medical procedure is always to prevent a major health issue when being funded by state taxes.

Whenever the israelis bomb the buildings, they don’t know for certain there are kids in there. They are just theoretical kids in the moment to them.

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