Feel free to go to some shithole in the middle East or Africa where there is no rule of law and see how that works out for you.
Your assumption is based on the idea that these people are not criminals, which is wrong.
They are not criminals until they actually break laws. Yes. That’s how rule of law works. That’s why there need to be laws that regulate them. Welcome to the real world.
Feel free to go to some shithole in the middle East or Africa where there is no rule of law and see how that works out for you.
Even you know that comparing digital cyber-crime and white-collar criminals to that is a horrible comparison, like comparing apples to oranges, but you weren’t hoping to have a reasonable discussion, you were hoping I wouldn’t notice this flaw in your logic and that it would simply shut me up. I know you and your type very well.
They are not criminals until they actually break laws. Yes. That’s how rule of law works. That’s why there need to be laws that regulate them. Welcome to the real world.
You think they’re not breaking laws already? You think these big tech white-collar businessmen aren’t already white collar criminals engaged in multiple types of crimes? You must be either very naive or just in-denial about it because they almost certainly are, and most act compliant and apologetic only after they get caught. Therefore a system that relies on them complying and not tracking you before they’ve been caught violating it, will not work. It’s exactly what they want because the other option, the better one interrupts their tracking regardless of whether they want to comply or not.
Even you know that comparing digital cyber-crime and white-collar criminals to that is a horrible comparison, like comparing apples to oranges, but you weren’t hoping to have a reasonable discussion, you were hoping I wouldn’t notice this flaw in your logic and that it would simply shut me up.
No, I was hoping you’d understand the differences between a place that follows the rules of law, and one that doesn’t. But given your previous comments that was already nothing but false hope, of course.
I know you and your type very well.
Oh yeah? What type would that be? Someone who’s standing up to fascists and terrorist simps?
You think they’re not breaking laws already? You think these big tech white-collar businessmen aren’t already white collar criminals engaged in multiple types of crimes?
You’re derailing, it’s not about whether they commit ANY crimes. The topic was very specifically about whether they break the law by tracking users and collecting their data, or whether it would be already illegal to ignore the Do-Not-Track feature. And no, neither of those things is illegal. That’s the point. The internet may fall under old laws too, but it created a bunch of new cases that do not fall under any laws. That’s also why we’ve seen the GDPR within the EU as some of the first means to challenge a lot of those “new” cases that are happening on the internet. Or the AI Act to regulate those fields since more and more places started to use this tech in ways that were highly problematic - but not illegal before that. If we create new possibilities, then we also need to regulate those possibilities through new laws as well. This is really not a hard concept to understand.
Oh yeah? What type would that be? Someone who’s standing up to fascists and terrorist simps?
Average political troll like @Linkerbaan@lemmy.world (banned now). I mean you were literally banned for calling leftists radicalized terrorists, just like linkerbaan was banned for similar bad faith name-calling and accusations. Modlogs, they’re a very nice thing on Lemmy, even if you don’t have them on mbin.
Oh and before you start crying about being abused by mods and admins, I haven’t been banned from instances or communities for hate speech or aggression, mods don’t regularly tell me to stop doing that because it’s against the rules. I don’t have a modlog filled with aggressive comments calling people names or making repeated bad faith accusations that don’t hold any merit. If you don’t realize how the problem is with you and your behavior you’ll probably continue to be banned and have comments removed, adding to your reputation.
You’re derailing, it’s not about whether they commit ANY crimes.
It’s about whether they would, and they would and do which is why I called them criminals, and if we’re discussing the topic of DNT why’d you stop there? You realize that what I said about it is completely true.
Therefore a system that relies on them complying and not tracking you before they’ve been caught violating it, will not work. It’s exactly what they want because the other option, the better one interrupts their tracking regardless of whether they want to comply or not.
That a system which does not enforce their own compliance won’t work, and that they’ll love it because they can not comply and if they don’t get caught nothing will happen. It’s a system that does not work with the average big tech white-collar criminals who think they are above the law and only start giving a fuck after they get caught.
Whereas actually blocking their trackers (and advertisements in extreme mode) and feeding them false fingerprinting data does solve the tracking problem, better than asking them and assuming their compliance ever could.
