Comment by DarkThoughts@fedia.io on Don't reply "just Google it"

It is clear that the signal to noise ratio of the WWW is getting worse. It’s much harder to find good content when using a good old search engine. And if it’s good it is usually hosted on Reddit or Stackexchange.

So remember, even if it’s easy too Google something (well, it isn’t nowadays), we want to create a fediverse of good content that helps people (I hope). So, it’s always better to write a real answer if you have the time and energy. Please help boost the SNR and reverse the AI fueled information degradation loop.

Old Reddit threads where the answer giver deleted their account & all their comments.

That’s why when I left reddit I don’t delete my posts (even if those posts suck)

Bonus:

I did, bc reddit locked up my content, and wanted to use it to train a LLM.

Let people ask again, here, in the fediverse.

Reddit lost nothing when you deleted your comments, they still exist on their servers and are likely being used to train LLMs now. All that was lost was other peoples ability to readt them

That does hurt Reddits usability for users, though, which is bad for business in general.

And without my.comment, fewer hits because users cannot see it, which means less people provide training data.

No single drop feels responsible for the flood.

Sure thats correct, but I’m a little uneasy with the idea of “burn down a useful resource for people becuase fewer people helped people results in slower increases of data to Reddit”

A trap for people isn’t something I’d consider “useful”.

Just like a pedo van offering free food to kids… sure kids get fed, but at what cost?

That’s assuming we’re able to draw the people with answers here into the fediverse, in the long run.

What gets us there is long term stability.

Grow organically, and they will come.

First, the tech enthusiasts, then tech journos, then normal journos, then normals.

It’s how online spaces grow.

Just search for obscure shitty pocketknife models and my dinkum pictures from here are among the top results, sometimes even #1. I therefore conclude that this is not outside the realm of possibility.

Is it the mantis? I had to use kagi and set it to fediverse for it to pop up for me. On firefox and google it it nowhere to be seen for me.

(already had a feeling that someone will say this)

I won’t delete my posts/comments because I want to be helpful, that’s it.

But if I prefer deleting my posts/comments, I will archive it instead.

I respect what r/ArtFundamentals did, and it should be an example: After reddit’s APIpocalypse, they don’t support reddit and decided to close the subreddit. But the advices from the subreddit wasn’t gone–in fact they actually archive it in their own website:

https://drawabox.com/r/artfundamentals/

I wrote a script (well, modified one of my old bots) to copy and archive all of my comments before editing them. I left a note in the comments for how to find me in case they wanted the original comment. I felt like that was a fair compromise

Sadly, DuckDuckGo really sucks ass at searching the fediverse.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Lemmy+don't+reply+just+google+it&t=fpas&ia=web

Even if you type in the exact words of the post, it will display 1 post and that is it, then switch to other sources. Probably because of all of the different server names that aren’t Lemmy.

On the bright side, while the top instance hit for “Lemmy” in a Google search is “lemmy.ml”, the top DDG hit is “Lemmy.World”. Not only does LW have ~80% of all Lemmy users but it also shows a default post sort using All rather than Local as ML does. Thus while the chief takeaway from a normie user going to ML is “wow, these guys really hate the USA/Western world” and “bUt BoTh SiDeS eQuAl ThO”, the takeaway from using DDG to find LW is a much more positive experience of “Lemmy”.

So if DDG searches of Lemmy are not always better than Google, they are least sometimes are.:-)

I can kinda get the sentiment. I left during the protests too and I can see people wanting to damage Reddit, which is also completely deserved. Of course now Reddit is respecting the right to your comments even less and scrapes them for Google’s LLM models.

Eh. I torched all my comments when I left (and posts, too) and I’ve said before and still maintain that I’m not sorry in the slightest.

If anything wants to know anything I said that was relevant to anything (and not the usual cavalcade of political bickering) they can come here and ask. I’ll gladly retype any of it.

Fuck reddit. The quicker we can dispose of it and just rip that Band-Aid off, the better.

I don’t feel bad about wiping my account, as almost everything on it was useless.

Also I was pissed off at the time, and my goal was to make more people dislike going on Reddit.

Or scrambled all of their posts after APIgate (or whatever we’re calling it). Perhaps they came here, which means OP is right in saying we can be a new source of useful answers.

I’m not sure if Lemmy or other Fediverse posts even get indexed by any of the search engines. I’ve yet to see any in a search result.

They absolutely do. Not only Lemmy posts in general, but I have found my own content completely unintentionally on searches several times.

I guess it’s a matter of lack of good posts that could become the desired search result then. Time will tell if we ever get to that point.

The way that all the copies of the content link to the original post should be some kind of SEO hack. I wonder if it’s triggering specific rules in search engines that detect it and downrank it as cheating.

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