Is it bots? Are those humans whos mission is to cause chaos? Is the weird behaviour caused by the creation of the concept of lemmy?

Somebody please explain to me wtf is going on.

They answer destructive comments, assuming shit, demanding shit. Are they trolls?

Are they being paid for causing chaos? It’s insane

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It’s a combination of tankies and some more level headed leftists. They do have a decent proportion of OK users and the occasional decent meme, but the frequent genocide denialism and too many tankies have resulted in a lot of blocks and bans.

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The “Just Kidding, but maybe not” kind of memes are both common in the tankie group as well in the right-wing group, which makes me thing it’s just the same people with different costumes, also known as a reskinned model.

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Sounds like political compass shit, left or right, but primarily in the “authoritarian” top half

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The political compass has got to be the most bullshit metric, I’m according to the compos a left libertarian. It doesn’t account for theory and for people who are marxist and understand that communism has not yet materialised. Anyway just a slight annoyance i have.

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The Political Compass doesn’t actually mean anything, you cannot simplify political views to a grid, moreover nobody is “authoritarian,” people have different views on centralization vs decentralization. For example, Marxists believe in a fully publicy owned, centrally planned economy, whereas Anarchists believe in full horizontalism. I would describe the Marxist system as having more potential for democracy, as you have a unified system and thus your votes and voice covers a broader area, whereas an Anarchist would disagree, most likely.

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It’s that horseshoe again.

Far left and far right, hand in hand, both reminiscing for a 1950s that never existed. One in Russia and one in America.

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“reskinned model”, lol, interesting application of the concept. I like.

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Horseshoe theory

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Authoritarians are authoritarian first. Left or right is an afterthought. No horseshoes required.

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If you go far enough left, you end up back on the right.

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I would argue authoritarian ‘leftism’ is just a misnamed right wing ideology wearing the sheepskin of socialism, where as Anarchism / Libertarian Socialism is the ‘real’ far left.

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Lol I literally got banned from ml for “horseshoe theory”

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I’m sort of new to Lemmy, having only been here a few months, and I started my first account here in world, the one I am commenting with.

What I found is that world has many cool and fun and interesting communities, but for news ( world or USA centered) is really centralist USA based. World has cut off access to many other cool and interesting communities that may have different viewpoints here and there.

I think the few experiences by trolls here from other communities is more of a walled garden thing, and if world has a more inclusive mix this would solve a lot of issues .

Me migrating to another instance still allows me to participate here in world, and I simply ignore what I don’t like here and elsewhere.

Honestly, world has as many issues with gatekeeping and power hungry mods as instances and the only way to get the full lemmy experience is to pick and chose what fits best with oneself

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I think the few experiences by trolls here from other communities is more of a walled garden thing, and if world has a more inclusive mix this would solve a lot of issues .

You say be more inclusive of tankies and I say learn about the paradox of tolerance.

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It’s not wall to wall tankees , this is only a minority. Which for the non tanker, can be avoided and ignored.

I was talking more of a general problem by deciding what I wanted to censor myself rather than letting others do it for me. Baby and bath water analogy and all that.

And this extends way beyond tankees and piracy.

And since people are talking about hexbear, it does have the best Syrian news coverage

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Lemmy.ml and Lemm.ee are both more broadly federated than Lemmy.world if you want to combat the US bias of .world.

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Yup, that’s pretty much spot on. I don’t really have a problem with .world myself. I do hear a lot of complaints about admin powertrips, but I’ve never used .world so I have not experienced this myself.

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The problem is that the tankies are running the instance and get off on banning anyone that doesn’t toe the line of the party ideology.

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Please remember that some people don’t know the lingo yet.

New people for example. New people who might come to this thread trying to learn about the different instances.

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They’ve got Google.

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