If this is the way to superintelligence, it remains a bizarre one. “This is back to a million monkeys typing for a million years generating the works of Shakespeare,” Emily Bender told me. But OpenAI’s technology effectively crunches those years down to seconds. A company blog boasts that an o1 model scored better than most humans on a recent coding test that allowed participants to submit 50 possible solutions to each problem—but only when o1 was allowed 10,000 submissions instead. No human could come up with that many possibilities in a reasonable length of time, which is exactly the point. To OpenAI, unlimited time and resources are an advantage that its hardware-grounded models have over biology. Not even two weeks after the launch of the o1 preview, the start-up presented plans to build data centers that would each require the power generated by approximately five large nuclear reactors, enough for almost 3 million homes.

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a million monkeys typing for a million years generating the works of Shakespeare

FFS, it’s one monkey and infinite years. This is the second time I’ve seen someone make this mistake in an AI article in the past month or so.

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FFS, it’s one monkey and infinite years.

it is definitely not that long. we already had a monkey generating works of shakespeare. its name was shakespeare and it did not take longer than ~60 million years

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A million isn’t even close.
There’s about a few million characters in shakespeares works. That means the chance of typing it randomly is very conservatively 1 in 261000000

if a monkey types a million characters a week the amount of “attempts” a million monkeys makes in a million years is somewhere in the order of 52000000*1000000*1000000 = 5.2 × 1019

The difference is hillriously big. Like, if we multiply both the monkey amount and the number of years by the number of atoms in the knowable universe it still isn’t even getting close.

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I always thought it was a small team, not millions. But yeah, one monkey with infinite time makes sense.

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The whole point is that one of the terms has to be infinite. But it also works with infinite number of monkeys, one will almost surely start typing Hamlet right away.

The interesting part is that has already happened, since an ape already typed Hamlet, we call him Shakespeare. But at the same time, monkeys aren’t random letter generators, they are very intentional and conscious beings and not truly random at all.

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But it also works with infinite number of monkeys, one will almost surely start typing Hamlet right away.

Wouldn’t it even be not just one, but an infinite number of them that would start typing out Hamlet right away ?

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one will almost surely start typing Hamlet right away

This is guaranteed with infinite monkeys. In fact, they will begin typing every single document to have ever existed, along with every document that will exist, right from the start. Infinity is very, very large.

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