My problem with this is, who gets to decide where bourgeoisie start and ends. Because for the majority of the world, the average American is a selfish bourgeois with a big house and two cars, who thinks oppression is when the gas price rise. Kill all the bourgeois fine, but who gets to decide who lives and who dies?
edit: jeez americans, we dont have to agree on everything and downvote to hell just because someone says something we dont like. Maybe in the US shooting people you dont like seems like a resonable solution, but Iâm sorry itâs not that simple in the rest of the world.
Class is about relation to the Means of Production, not simple wealth. The US is largely made up of labor aristocracy who benefit from Imperialism, like you pointed out, but arenât bourgeoisie.
Secondly, putting people to death isnât the goal, changing property relations is. Adventurism is cool to see, but doesnât actually change anything.
Itâs, again, a relation to production. Capital Owners, ie business owners and whatnot, are bourgeoisie. I suggest reading the first section in my introductory Marxist reading list.
This is two questions in one. Cowbee is addressing who is and isnât bourgeois.
As to who lives and who dies: nobody has to die, but history has proven that the capitalist class wonât relinquish power peacefully. They will utilize state violence to retain control of the state and to protect their private property.
USA is pretty much the most capitalist country in the world so thatâs a lot of people that might die. But again, who gets to decide who will die (or be rehabilitated)? Cowbee?
How would I know, it hasnât happened yet. You think youâre asking an ethical question, but youâre basically asking a historical question about the future. One canât predict how violently the capitalists will react to a socialist revolution in an indeterminate future moment that becomes ripe for one.
How many people will die if US monopoly capitalismâotherwise known as imperialism[1]âcontinues? Because lately itâs been killing by the millions.
Think of it this way: Systems vs Demographics
We as a society should never condone a system (government/CEOs/billionaires) killing a demographic (individual or group), like the death penalty. Because the system already has greater power and control.
However, the demographic should be able to kill or dismantle systems, especially when they feel threatened by those with power.
So âthe peopleâ can take the lives of the rich into their hands, but the rich canât take the lives of âthe peopleâ into their hands. Ideally.
Which is why itâs okay to be pro assassination of a CEO, but not pro death penalty of a serial killer. Government (system) sanctioned murder (of a demographic) should never be okay.
Because for the majority of the world, the average American is a selfish bourgeois with a big house and two cars, who thinks oppression is when the gas price rise.
I mean I fucking live here and thatâs pretty much my assessment as well to be honest. Maybe not your average american if weâre working on like, whoâs right just based on home ownership statistics, but certainly, thatâs not really an invalid perception.
