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Rewarding imperialism because war is bad. Fantastic. I’m going to move next door and annex your backyard because you rolling over and letting me have it is better than a prolonged legal fight.

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In this analogy you’ve created, that user would get me or another to take pot shots at your children while you kill their children for years and years until finally you or they give up, both worse than just accepting that the separatist governments were legitimate and the insanely corrupt zelensky government was probably in the wrong.

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the separatist government’s were legitimate

And definitely in no way funded or supported by Russia, right?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/26/russia-admits-soldiers-in-ukraine

https://youtu.be/xV0FUx5i9eA

https://www.vice.com/en/article/selfie-soldiers-russia-checks-in-to-ukraine/

Russia indisputibly fired the first shots, and the so-called genocide in donbas was about 3k civilian deaths over 8 years of conflict. Not ideal, but still miles better than the 12k civilians killed (often deliberately) in the almost 3 years since the full scale invasion by Russia. Not to mention the cities literally shelled to rubble.

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The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Like when the CIA supported the Maidan coup or any other color revolution, the GRU taking advantage of very real grievances of the Russian-speaking population of Donbass to advance its own geopolitical interests at the expense of those same people doesn’t mean those grievances didn’t exist or that those people were happy being part of a Ukrainian state that made them second-class citizens.

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