Nothing more disappointing to me than seeing a game I might enjoy… and then it’s only available on PC on Epic Games store. Why can’t it be available on Epic, Xbox game store and Steam? It’s so annoying, like you have no choice but to use Epic… which I would literally do ANYTHING not to use.

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Steam is their scapegoat, they want a Monopoly without having to say they have a Monopoly.

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Wait, who want a monopoly? Epic? The Epic store is like a tenth of Steam’s size, and most of that is down to Fortnite alone. Hard to have a monopoly when you’re struggling to break double digit share.

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… right, which is why I said they want a monopoly, not that they have a monopoly.

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Well, yeah, presumably they all do. I’m sure the kebab place next door would love to have a monopoly, it just doesn’t look like it’s in the cards, you know?

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People who hate on Steam alternatives want a monopoly

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No, people who back monopolistic, anti-consumer companies like EGS want a monopoly.

If you actually look, nobody ever complains about GOG or Itch.io. That’s because they don’t pull anticompetitive bullshit like the paid exclusives that EGS relies on

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The company providing an actual alternative to steam’s real monopoly is not the one to be complaining about

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Are they providing an actual alternative, or just creating a pseudo alternative then bitching about how someone else gets more attention?

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It is, in fact, an alternative to steam. What a stupid thing to say

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Except they’re trying to strongarm people into using it by using huge amounts of money to buy exclusivity rights.

People don’t want monopolies because companies can abuse their position to hurt consumers. But steam provides a very user friendly experience with lots of benefits and features like mod hosting, remote play together, etc. Epic provides a store that people hate using, and people only put up with because epic abused fortnite’s success to buy exclusivity deals*. Despite being the much smaller storefront, Epic already feels like the abusive monopoly in the PC gaming space.

*Many people also play on Epic because of free games, which is a valid and pro-consumer way to attract users. I’m 100% cool with this strategy, although giving away merchandise at a loss is also a common monopoly strategy.

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With regards to

People don’t want monopolies because companies can abuse their position to hurt consumers.

It’s important to remember that it’s not only buyers, but developers that use Steam. Steam is currently involved in a lawsuit with developers.

The “commission” would be Valve’s cut on sales made through Steam, which starts at 30% and drops to 20% as sales increase. Valve defended the percentage as “industry standard” when Wolfire’s lawsuit was first filed, but that’s no longer the case: The Epic Games Store and Microsoft both take just 12% of sales made through their stores.

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/the-antitrust-lawsuit-against-steam-is-now-a-class-action-and-that-could-have-big-repercussions-for-valve/

Also relevant, from 2021 but the same lawsuit,

The Wolfire lawsuit estimates that Valve controls “approximately 75 percent” of the $30 billion market for PC game sales, a number that lines up with other public estimates of Steam’s dominance.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/04/humble-bundle-creator-brings-antitrust-lawsuit-against-valve-over-steam/

I like Steam, I’m not hating on Steam, but rushing to defend it from people saying it’s a monopoly (or calling Epic Games Store a monopoly) is very much denying reality.

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Would you do your job and maybe receive an income but only years later, based on results and how happy you made your boss?

The devs and publishers who sign those deals are the ones you should be angry at, Epic is offering them guaranteed income in exchange for timed exclusivity, Valve is offering them access to a bigger player base in exchange for a gamble.

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