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8 points

19 days ago

tell that to my PTO policy. I’m getting sick and getting paid, and spending my limited vacation on times I feel good.

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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works

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4 points

19 days ago

Or think about it this way, would you rather have 2 weeks of PTO or one week of vacation and one week of sick leave? Or even 2.5 weeks PTO vs 2 weeks vacation and 1 week sick leave and you need to provide a reason for the sick leave?

I much prefer PTO over some mixed policy, even if the mix is technically more time off.

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2 points

19 days ago

I should just be able to call in sick if I’m sick. Why even track it?

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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works

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1 point

19 days ago

Because people will abuse it, which sucks. And if you go with an unlimited PTO option, there’s often a lot of cultural pressure to not take PTO.

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1 point

19 days ago

so discipline those that abuse it? It’s really a symptom of not engaging with your workforce on a realistic level. Many non-American countries deal with it adequately. In the UK your sick days don’t come out of your vacation, and if you need more than a week off you have to get a doctor’s note.

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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works

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1 point

19 days ago

And whether that’s a good system comes down to the quality of your immediate leadership. PTO gives you essentially a right to use time off for whatever you need, whereas discretionary time off comes down to the discretion of your manager. Some prefer the guarantee over a promise.

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1 point

19 days ago

I’d argue that “you can use it however you want” is pissing on my boots and telling me it’s raining.

I want to use my vacation for vacation, as it’s vacation. I don’t want to use my vacation for being sick. If it is truly what I want that really matters, then shouldn’t that be respected?

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SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de

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2 points

19 days ago

I have almost 30 work days PTO plus virtually unlimited paid sick leave. Both basically standard over here.

Always amazes me that the US is not already chopping heads because of the bad health system alone

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