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If the problem is that some immigrants are categorized as illegal and some are not, why not get rid of that categorization? If companies are not paying people enough, why not just add a minimum wage?

The problem is that the current system does a poor job handling these cases. As a leftist, it makes more sense to me to make laws to fix the issues as opposed to saying it would be hard to make changes without law changes or inconveniencing owners who like paying shit wages to immigrants, better keep the current system that is causing human suffering to continue.

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It’s not very realistic in the world we live in to just have everyone come in. It will become unmanageable for everyone very quickly. If you want to have a better avenue for the existing illegal immigrants to become citizens, sure, but you’ll also need some stricter immigration control since that’s a massive callsign for more illegal immigration. And soon you’d have the same issue even worse.

If the solution is to just change the system, I’m all for it. I just see it happening anytime soon. So trying to make things better now while waiting for the system to change, that is much more manageable and likely to happen, so at least do that imo.

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So if your problem is that we might have too much immigration. Do you support cracking down hard on farms that use illegal immigration labor?

Or is that also too much to ask?

Because at a certain point if it’s all too much to ask, your position from a utilitarian, is legitimately keep everything the same.

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Do you support cracking down hard on farms that use illegal immigration labor?

Well of course? That seems like an obvious step to take. Crack down on existing illegal practises and move to prevent them from happening.

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