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It’s very difficult to talk about this kind of thing without sounding like one is taking sides. So let me make this clear first: Israel is committing war crimes, there should be a ceasefire in Gaza immediately, and humanitarian aid should be supplied under international protection.

Ok?

Now, just because Israel is committing war crimes doesn’t mean Hamas aren’t doing what Israel accuses them of. Is that an ok observation to make around here?

They are a nihilistic extremist Islamic organisation that many other extreme Islamic groups want nothing to do with. They engage in guerilla fighting, a prominent tactic of which is hiding amongst the regular civilian population. Do I have proof Hamas fires rockets from residential back yards? Personally, no. But would it surprise me? Also no. Have Hamas taken up day time ‘civvie’ jobs in aid agencies? Apparently yes. Would it surprise me if it turned out they coordinated with a hospital boss to use the space? It would not surprise me in the least.

Is bombing a hospital ok? No, of course not.

Is Hamas’ guerilla network completely independent of Gaza civilian life? Only someone who has no idea how guerrilla forces work would think so.

Does that make the deaths of civilians and children ok? No, of course not.

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Yeah I don’t think anyone needs a primer on Hamas possibly doing bad things. We’ve spent the last 2 decades fighting insurgencies. Chiming in every time Israel makes a claim with, “but it could be true this time!” without evidence is bad faith.

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If you’re not “taking sides” during a genocide, then you’re choosing genocide.

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Genocide is wrong. That doesn’t mean one has to be pro-Hamas. How are you looking at it in such a simplistic way?

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Why are trying not to take sides?

The one side is commiting genocide against the other!

There is very VERY clear wrong and right side here.

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How are you misunderstanding this?

Genocide is wrong. The indiscriminate killing of civilians is wrong.

That’s not taking sides, that’s saying neither Israel nor Hamas is right.

It’s non combatants of both sides who are innocent here and the Palestinian civilians are in dire need of help.

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Oh I understand now, you are either troll, Israeli troll or incredibly dense.

Please educate yourself.

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