You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
21 points

Your life is a painful mess and you’re generalising that to everyone. I’m sorry you’re unhappy about your life, but that really isn’t an argument about other people having children.

Life can be painful, it can be beautiful, it can be dull or exciting, or anything in between. It’s not inherently negative or positive, as you’re claiming.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

The point is lost on you. I genuinely hope your kid has a good life, but I personally would never gamble someone else’s life for my own selfish wants, and I can’t reconcile others decisions to do so either.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

But you’re basing that on your own negative experiences in life, and you’re acting like they’re objective and universal.

Also, by that logic you shouldn’t do anything that could potentially cascade into making someone else unhappy, which would be absolutely debilitating.

Don’t get me wrong, I get that you should think twice, thrice and even more about having kids, especially if you’re not in a position to give them a good life and/or if you have certain heritable issues. But your overall position seems overly negative and, idk, somewhat misanthropic? In your worldview humanity should just stop existing because people can be unhappy in life. It’s overly reductive and negative to me.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Everybody is basing their opinions on their own experience.

I find it hilarious that you can argue your own experience is any different.

To better explain the argument: they are not saying “it’s 50:50 the child will suffer”, they mean “there is obviously a non-zero chance that children will suffer”, which is absolutely true. It’s up to the individual to consider their situation (money, time, temper, parental knowledge, genetic diseases etc) to gauge how much more may their children have it worse than average.

And I would say that many children do indeed suffer, and many don’t have the conditions that I personally would consider ideal.

But having a child is always on their respective parents. Morality won’t change their minds.

permalink
report
parent
reply