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Fuck Elon. Fuck Tesla.

I was their target demographic and Elon made sure that I never even consider their trash. I went BMW instead.

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This is why Elonia is asking trump to impose tariffs on Canada and Mexico. Other car manufacturers started biting into Tesla market share this year.

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Poor Queen Elonia.

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He want to add tarrifs and he is also asking Trump to remove government subsidies on new EV purchases, raising the barrier to entry in the US for EVs

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There’s no way he’s asking for that. If you can find a source for that claim I’d love to see it. But it’s about the dumbest thing musk could do.

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BMW lobbies against non-car based infrastructure and car industry regulation here in Germany. Biggest shareholder is the Quandt family, who are descendant from literal Nazis, and now use part of their billions to fund the conservatives (at least they aren’t giving it to the far-right. Yet.)

So yeah, fuck Elon, but fuck BMW too.

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Yeah fine me a car company that’s not like that. Living in the US it’s a necessity to have a car so just gonna nix that argument. I bought a Toyota to get ultimate reliability (yes Honda is basically equal) but I’m sure they both have done equally terrible shit. And when I’m not in grad school I want to go back to a BMW because they are great cars to drive. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism so just try to enjoy your life where you can.

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On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, if you’re saying you bought from brand A, not B, specifically because the big boss of B is a shithead, I feel like it’s valid to point out the ways the big boss of A is shit too.

Since everyone is shit, I dunno, buy used, I guess.

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27 points

never owned a BMW, or a Tesla for that matter, but I’ve heard they’re just as bad when it comes to being money hungry

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There is no such thing as a benevolent corporation. Don’t feed the fascists. Don’t give your money to Elon.

EDIT: Autocorrect derp

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I mean, fuck Elon and Tesla but if you’re spending money on a car you’re giving it to a bastard one way or another. The CEOs of Ford, BMW, et. al. might not be making asses of themselves on the global stage, but I’m sure they’re still horrible. Even used cars run on gas 99% of the time.

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A friend bought a new BMW. Everything is controlled with an app. There’s also an interface in the car itself, obviously, but the app has more functions.

Things like seat heating, air conditioner, enhanced cruise control and all the fancy things are only available if you subscribe to one of the three offerings.

I just glanced over the app, so i don’t remember the names, but it went like the usual: basic, premium, platinum.

Prices were in the range of 200, 400, 700 euros a fucking month.

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Yeah choosing BMW is a strange choice against something like Tesla when they are doing the same sort of thing. I won’t criticize the “I’m rich so I bought an expensive car” thing, that can happen elsewhere, but the idea that BMW is the lesser of the evils isn’t really accurate.

I wish we were in a world where we could more easily avenge our terrible upbringing in this system moment after moment like Geralt, where if we’re to choose between the lesser of two evils, we’d rather not choose at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0i88t0Kacs

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Are you saying that you can’t use the A/C without subscribing to their app?

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That is correct, but at least BMW knows how to make decent cars that won’t trap you in in an emergency.

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That BMW iDrive looks good but if it’s all app and touchscreen based… Imma skip.

TBH though, all the damn nice EVs are touch screens or bubble crossovers.

Why the fuck do I want to drive a bubble. I want to drive an electric car. Take the Ford Mustang, put the electric parts in it, and don’t turn it into a crossover. Take the Toyota 86, put electric parts in it. Do not turn it into a cross over.

Idk take any fucking car that looks like a fun car and goddamn it, put electric parts in it, don’t add touchscreens, and don’t stick your lips on the wand of soap and blow into the frame making it a goddamn bubble crossover.

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6 points

Ioniq 6.

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12 points

I went Audi but to be completely honest Hyundai and Kia make the best EVs.

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5 points

I needed a single payment lease and BMW does those with zero hassle.

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BMW does have shady monetization tactics with their newer car, but Subaru shred almost every other car brands to dust

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Are Subaru cars still loud AF? I had a 2002 Impreza, and a 2012 and both had lots of road noise with everything in the car popping or cracking with every bump.

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Okay that’s not just me, thank god. I thought something was just wrong with the sound deadening on my Forester, especially because my 30 year old Mazda 323 is at least 50% quieter. Nope, its what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

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Of course, and that’s part of the charm. They bag out like a pair of leather slippers. I read something recently about them using a shit ton more adhesive in the new Forester so maybe it’s improving? My 2015 isn’t that bad, but I hate driving in general so basic appliance standards is fine by me.

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Did u have to unlearn how to use an indicator?

Isnt that a mandatory class before they let u buy one?

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You know I haven’t been to a dealership yet to find out.

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How is it driving without turn signals? Granted, given they put them as buttons on the friggin steering wheel in the new Teslas, maybe not much different?

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I am sad to say that the old joke is becoming obsolete. These new cars are smart. If you try to change lanes without a turn signal, the car beeps loudly to tell you that you have drifted. Our company also has a Sprinter van that will actually pull you back into your lane. Sad times.

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Turn signals aren’t for you, they’re for other drivers. I can’t hear the other car yelling at their driver, I just see them decide to cut into my lane with no warning or signal.

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Same

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I thought BMW wanted a subscription for heated seats. You know, the seats already in your car but software locked with a paywall.

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