3x25mm, TX10

UPDATE: I ran out and went and bought another pack of 200.

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My perfectly factual opinions notwithstanding, there are other factors that prevented the total dominance of Torx, and somewhat kept the flathead around.

The first is simple metallurgy. The Robertson was a direct competitor to the Phillips, but punching a deep, straight-sided square hole into the head subjected the metal to a lot more stress compared to the angled cruciform of Phillips. It made the head brittle and the screw worse overall. This is a non-issue with modern manufacturing practices, but it was a significant factor decades ago.

The second is a saying that applies to most fields of technology: standardized is better than perfect. I still groan in frustration whenever I encounter a pentalobe or tri-point screw because I never have the correct screwdrivers at hand. It was the same situation with Torx about 10-15 years ago. It proliferated since then, and all of my sets now contain several Torx bits. I believe it will overtake the Phillips with time.

(edit) I was incorrect in the first point. The original square head screw was invented in the USA and used a flat-bottomed die to stamp the recess into the head, which is what caused the brittleness. Robertson’s die has sloped walls and a bottom that tapers into a point (like a short obelisk) that mitigated this weakness somewhat. The real reason the Phillips came out on top is because Henry Ford chose it over the Robertson.

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Yes, if torx and Phillips are sat side by side at more or less the same price point then it seems like a no brainer. Maybe it’s just a matter of time.

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Is that what the issue was with Robertson? That would explain a lot. An old coworker described them as the fastest way to shear a head. They did strip out sometimes but usually you didn’t have to worry about it because the head would snap off first.

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And wasn’t that decision because of a licensing disagreement? I remember seeing a post about this recently.

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