Comment by tiramichu@lemm.ee on Discord now properly supports screensharing on linux

Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux’s permission prompts

I was almost convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it’s been broken so long. Like, years long.

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken. With steam working so well on Linux now, broken discord streaming without actual working audio share was one of the last things that posed a hurdle for gamers ditching Windows.

(In the meantime, thank you Vesktop for your service <3)

I like how Vesktop updates in the background. Discord proper has to close, download the .deb, install, and relaunch.

You give them too much credit. It’s just shitty, that’s it.

Discord is pretty much broken on all platform. It always was. There’s just no real alternative unfortunately.

“Don’t attribute to malice what is explained by incompetence”

Lets create an alternative.

If Twitter is any indication, Discord would have to fuck up big, and for a long time for people to switch.

I agree, but working on an alternative an cultivating it could be a good start. Look at mastodon or lemmy.

There is an alternative people have used before discord came, it is called teamspeak. Is still around as well, but works more like a federated system since everyone has to set up and host their own server for people to use.

Teamspeak is no alternative to discord. Sorry. Also its not even open source, is it?

Discord isnt open source either tho so how does that matter for the comparison?

And while yes it is a little outdated, I do recall the time before discord when people would have their own teamspeak server instead, which worked very similar to the fediverse.

You had the client and could connect to any server you had the credentials to, which each were owned and hosted by various people or groups each with their own rules and code of conduct.

Mumble is open source.

I’m all for it tho I have no idea how to grab the folk’s attention

We would have to sit down and actually think what an opensource solution can achieve and how it gets traction. Also from the get go it should be clear that there will be no feature parity between it and discord. If it was me, I would cut out the whole chatroom functionality, leave private messaging in, use threaded conversations as a standard and but a decent videocall system on top. But this would be my version of it, other people have other needs.

For the video call system you would not have to reinvent the wheel, use something existing like Jitsi (?) or alternatives. Then you would

Maybe the best bet is to look at matrix and wrench out the chatroom focus and replace it with threads?

best alternative would be a forum + voice calls + dms IMO

why cut chatroom functionality? Servers are the main reason people use discord?

Not in my bubble, chats create insurmountable loads of noise. By focusing on threads you get the discussion much more focused and streamlined. Example: Most of my discords are ttrpg related, where with the usage of bots games are scheduled. Or where discussion are happening around certain ttrpg systems.

I agree that a lot of discord servers focus on chat rooms. But you could retain that by simply having 1-2 chatrooms per server and structure/direct conversations to dedicated threads/voice chats instead.

Again this is just MY view. I am totally aware that other people, use it differently.

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken.

Tech companies are fully capable of being lazy for free. Fixing this takes dev time from other work that brings Discord money so doing this costs them, especially considering that Linux userbase must be rather tiny. 99% of software companies don’t give a shit about making quality product and will always try their hardest to do as little work as possible while making as much money as possible. If fixing a bug will cost them more than potential profits from making it work then they won’t fix it.

You’re right of course, it’s definitely down to simple lack of incentive, rather than some kind of conspiracy. But the conspiracy was a fun shower thought! :)

I saw something from a discord dev (can’t find it, so grain of salt) about how there was interest recently to do it, but they’d have to work on other stuff that affected everyone first, and they’d probably get it done by q4 2024, guess they were right.

I think before then the whole linux graphics and audio space hadn’t really stabilized enough for them to be interested.

convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it’s been broken so long. Like, years long.

Heh. There’s a ticket with Splunk. It’s a simple request: do the 30 sec of work to let us install your software rpm from a proper yum repo.

They can’t figure out how.

They won’t ask.

It’s 12 years old now.

The ticket for them to do a trivial exercise with tools twice as old, is now a tween. It can ride the bus on its own. I think it can get a Facebook account. Maybe.

We should get one for it.

It was the same with Zoom but AFAIK they’re finally working on it now.

The Zoom flatpak works fine. Haven’t tried native.

I had weird issues with the Flatpak (can’t remember what they were) but the native RPM worked fine. Previously you had to download and install/update the RPM manually but I’ve heard they’re working on proper RPM and deb repos.

That’s good! Options don’t hurt imo, as long as they’re properly maintained.

who in their sane mind uses zoom on their private device. holy molly

I’m using it on my work PC, since it’s what we use for meetings.

Is there really? Long time splunk admin, I would love to see this

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