I think the problem with btrfs is that it entered the spotlight way to early. With Wayland there was time to work on a lot of the kinks before everyone started seriously switching.

On btrfs a bunch of people switched blindly and then lost data. This caused many to have a bad impression of btrfs. These days it is significantly better but because there was so much fear there is less attention paid to it and it is less widely used.

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Wayland didn’t work out networking, even to this day, which is why I’m still using Xorg.

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Wayland as a protocol that apps use to talk to the desktop. It doesn’t use network at all really.

You need something like freeRDP for network access.

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@possiblylinux127 It is touted as a replacement for X-windows but the PRIMARY ADVANTAGE of X-windows is that you can run a program on one machine and display it on anther making Wayland completely useless in a networked context.

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@possiblylinux127 It strikes me as weird someone down votes a simple statement of fact. I guess they have a problem with reality.

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It is not trying to be a one to one replacement. It is a totally different thing. You are wanting a motorcycle to replace your 2002 pickup truck.

Also X forwarding is broken for most stuff. It probably will work but it will run poorly and use lots of bandwidth. This is because there are layers and layers of work arounds to make modern hardware and software work on it. The X protocol was intended for mainframes in the 80’s. It should’ve died long ago.

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X’s network transparency is overrated IMHO. Since ages most data on desktops is sent via shared memory to the X server (MIT-SHM extension) otherwise the performance would suck. This does not work over the network and so X over the network is actually quite slow. Waypipe works way better for me than SSH X forwarding.

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@hummus273 It’s overrated because you don’t use it, I frequently do. If all you want to do is emulate Windows than Wayland is fine. If you need network functionality it is not.

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You assume I’m not using it. On the contrary, I use it a lot at work. We have some old TK interfaces. They take ages to load over the network. The interfaces load much faster when using Xvnc running on the remote machine rather than X forwarding (but it is not as convenient).

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@hummus273 I have a 1gbit network connection at the co-lo, and 180mb/s cable and I don’t have any lag using X tunneled through ssh.

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Not having any lag is physically impossible. You don’t notice it maybe. But if I open Firefox with X forwarding on the same network (1gbe) it is very noticeable for me.

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waypipe?

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