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I’d say it’s obvious that some members of the establishment are paying attention and learning.

They have learned that liberals can’t be bothered to vote and will always find an excuse not to vote

Then they (you) actually haven’t learned a damn thing. Hell, even fucking James Carville is suddenly saying that Bernie had it right.

Harris spent the last month+ of her campaign bragging about support from CEOs, promising to put a Republican in her cabinet, and touring with Liz Cheney. The idea that she made a real effort to engage liberals and leftists is pure fiction.

Even saying it’s liberals and leftists that didn’t show up is wrong. Leftists are the most reliable voters in the country. It’s working class Americans that didn’t show up for Harris or voted for Trump. Leftists tell the establishment how to get working class voters, the establishment ignores them, working class voters stay home, then the establishment blames leftists.

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Are you delusional? Of course they engaged with conservatives and and ignored you. YOU DON’T SHOW UP. How many times do I have to repeat this for you to understand? You don’t show up for local races, you don’t show up for primaries, you really don’t show up for midterms, and you didn’t show up to stop a full on Hitler wannabe.
Why in the the hell would they ever cater to people who don’t show up, especially if doing so turns away the people who do show up? You don’t even show up to do your protest votes. If enough of you showed up to do protest votes, then trying to win your vote might be worthwhile, but you don’t show up. And that means that those people who do protest vote are not only wasting everyone’s time, but also effectively choosing the fascists.
If you want them to care what you think, you have to show up.

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YOU DON’T SHOW UP. How many times do I have to repeat this for you to understand?

I DID SHOW UP. This explains so much. Unlike you, I don’t judge the truth of a statement based on how often it’s repeated. No matter how many times you and corporate media make this incorrect claim, it isn’t going convince me. I prefer evidence like this Pew study that found the political left to be the most engaged, “that is, they voted at the highest rates in the 2020 presidential election, and they are most likely to say they post about politics on social media and that they donated to campaigns”.

As I TOLD YOU ALREADY, it’s regular working class voters who stay home in droves.

Why in the the hell would they ever cater to people who don’t show up, especially if doing so turns away the people who do show up?

I absolutely love the deluded framing of this sentence. I reject the premise but, even if I didn’t, does it not occur to you that the ability of “people who do show up” to “turn away” means they are exactly as fickle as you falsely accuse the left of being?

Democrats aren’t balancing the preferences of the “median voter” with the preferences of progressives. That is a lie. Modern elections are won on turnout, and Democrats are weighing the working class appetite for populist messaging with the demands of the donor class. Right wing populism doesn’t threaten capital in the same way as left wing populism, so Republicans get a lot more leeway in embracing (foe) populist messaging. Democrats try to strike a balance between voters and donors, which is why all of our elections have razor thin margins. Whenever Democrats miscalculate and give in too much to their donors, the Republicans take power.

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Less less people voted tin the 2024 presidential election than in the 2020 election. This is a basic fact. Twist it turn it, divide it how you want, they did not show up. Even in 2020, only 2/3 of eligible voters cast a ballot. Since the majority of eligible voters identify as liberal, the fact that only 33% of the voters voted liberal in 2020 means that a smaller percentage of liberal voters bothered to vote than conservatives. So even though they won, they didn’t really bother to show up. Less than 50% of the eligible voters voted in 2022, and that is significantly down from 2018. This is not complicated, it’s grade school math.
Maybe you do need basic repetition to get through to you. If you didn’t vote then Trump is your fault. If you voted for anyone other than Kamala, then Trump is your fault.
You had a temper tantrum and now you are trying blame the consequences on everyone else, but the Dems are not going to chase your vote if you don’t bother to cast it.

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If you actually want to understand what happened, these two videos are a good start.

This Is A Huge Problem

BIDEN AND THE DEMOCRATS DOOMED US TO A TRUMP VICTORY

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