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Here a less sensationalist headline and more nuanced article:

Would Benjamin Netanyahu be arrested in Germany?

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DW is run by the German government to further the image of Germany abroad.

The mere fact that the government refuses to acknowledge the ICCs competence to issue the warrant and the obligation to enforce it as a member state, instead saying it needs to examine first, is an attack on the court.

When pressed on the matter in todays press conference they said the ICCs jurisdiction to be " not uncontested" despite the ICC having ruled this in 2021. And stating Germanys historical responsibility and calling arrests “hypothetical” and “difficult to imagine” show a warped understanding of what courts and laws are.

There is no exception. There is no individual alteration by a state. The orders of the court are to be respected and enforced if possible.

This is an “only yes means yes” kind of situation.

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Be that as it may, the headline with its convenient won’t is clickbait. Not only is the current German government on its way out, there is also no planned Netanyahu visit, and the answer given was as muddied as possible.

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Wanting to uphold international law and clearly supporting the institutions of international law is terrorism now?

Wanting war crimes to be prevented and punished is terrorism now?

Not wanting millions of people to be starved, ethnically cleansed or murdered is terrorism now?

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You’re reading that “examinate” in a very specific way. Baerbock says:

“We abide by the law at the national, European, and international level,” she said. “And that is why we are now examining exactly what this means for us in terms of its international application.”

She didn’t say “we’ll examine whether we’re bound to arrest him”, in fact she implicitly said the opposite (“we abide by law”) but “we are examining what it means for us”. As in: They’re looking into how to tell the Israelis that nope, Netanyahu better not come over because the government can’t give him diplomatic immunity when the courts would rather have him arrested. If Netanyahu wants to he could make a scene out of that and how to deal with that kind of situation is, well, what diplomats get paid for. What’s for sure is that Germany won’t spring a trap on him, saying he can come but then arresting him.

Ideally, Israel will extradite him once he’s out of office, or just plainly try him themselves. How to tell the Israelis that that’s indeed the best move they could make (not the left they would happily string up Bibi themselves but people like Gantz) is another thing worth examination.

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Diring the press conference yesterday the government speaker Hebestreit said that an “examination” is necessary as the jurisdiction of the ICC would be “not uncontested” despite this having been discussed and ruled by the court in 2021. When asked what Germany did in those three years he said they havent declared to recognise that ruling hence now they have to examine…

Here is the conference to watch. The arrest warrants come up at around minute 4

https://youtube.com/watch?v=NRl3X5nN4R4

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I would be inclined to say that I have difficulty imagining that we would make arrests in Germany on this basis.

So a nice way of saying that Germany is not going to arrest him.

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A Murdoch owned paper, I cringe everytime people share the telegraph

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