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-11 points

1 month ago

The so called rachet effect is because the left never shows up, so the Dems go to the center to find voters. The left doesn’t like this so they cry rachet.

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Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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11 points

1 month ago

Is there data about the 2024 election showing this available already? Because the 2020 data doesn’t support that.

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-11 points

1 month ago

Voted but voted for who? Jill Stein? I’m obviously saying they didn’t show up for Dems.

And the difference I see between right and left are about the same. Like those 4 points for left and right are really pretty much the same percentage. And that’s percentage, so it’s what I’ve said before that either 1) the left doesn’t exist (or is tiny), or 2) they don’t show up. Either way.

And finally I think Biden won because he went to the center and got those voters. The stressed sideliners in that graphic.

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Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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8 points

1 month ago

It wasn’t obvious, plenty of people simply say that the left doesn’t vote despite the fact they’re some of the most engaged voters out there.

You would think that courting the most dedicated voting demographic on your side of the aisle would be a positive if they weren’t already mostly voting for you anyway, but I’m not the kind of brilliant political machine that can lose elections to Trump twice. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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-3 points

1 month ago

Yeah it was obvious I’m saying the left doesn’t show up for the dems when it’s a 2 party system.

You would think that courting the most dedicated voting demographic

They’re either tiny or they don’t show up for the Dems. Every time the dems (jfc do I have to add that every time?) rely on the left, they lose.

lose elections to Trump twice.

Hillary said she’d have a map room to fight climate change. You know that existential issue that the left totally says it will show up for for the dems, right? And they didn’t show up for the Dems.

Biden saw that and ran center. And he won. But Biden did left things anyway. And what did polls show? That the left wasn’t going to show up for the Dems.

Harris relied on the left to show up for the Dems and they couldn’t even do that for the dems when their own human rights and democracy was on the ticket.

The only time the Dems win is when they go to the center. After this, thy will never ever rely on the left again, because they never show up for the Dems.

I hope you see why people don’t add for the Dems every single time. Because it’s a pain in the ass and a mess.

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Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone

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7 points

1 month ago

Damn, it’s crazy how the demographic that they don’t rely on because they’re so tiny who totally doesn’t show up to vote for them anyway is the reason they lost. Maybe if they go even further right next election it will work!

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-4 points

1 month ago

Well if I understand your run on sentence correctly, I already said it: the left either 1) doesn’t exist (in meaningful size), or 2) will never show up for the Dems. Take your pick, doesn’t really matter. The Dems will never, ever, never again rely on the left showing up for the Dems.

And they will go to the center. That’s the only time they ever win. That’s how Clinton won. That’s how Obama won. That’s how Biden won. Every time they rely on the left for the Dems they lose. That’s how Gore lost. That’s how Hilary lost. That’s how Kamala lost.

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