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FWIW there’s a way to bridge Bluesky accounts to Mastodon

https://fed.brid.gy/

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Why don’t people want to use mastodon?

Are they following rasputin again?

Does Mastodon refuse to deal with its issues, like Lemmy?

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Anecdotally, I joined Mastodon, found it difficult to find people who I personally know that were on different instances, kind of lost interest and thought kbin might be a better solution for both forums and microblogs all in one place, then my Mastodon instance shut down, and then kbin died too. Hence me being on lemmy.world, as default and stable of a server as there is here.

Bluesky felt fun and familiar right off the bat, my only issue was that it was still so small when I joined. Now that there’s an influx of new users, many of whom I followed on the bird site, it just feels like Twitter 2, which I suspect is what most people want.

FWIW I have a highly technical job and consider myself pretty tech literate, so I don’t think any of the issues I had with Mastodon weren’t things I could’ve figured out or worked around, I just didn’t feel incentivized to bother. I suspect they’ve smoothed out a lot of the federating issues I saw before, but at this point I’m happy enough on Bluesky to stay put.

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yea in the beginning it can be hard. Just start following people. And get your timeline filling. Try to check out other users posts/comments and follow them as well if you want to. That will you get started.

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If there are these roadblack to you as a profficient computer toucher then I think it’s safe to say this is system is already doomed to cultural irrelevance, at best just another one of our private clubhouse nerdtoys, sad !

Hopefully this defeat in the face of bluesky shocks the dev out of their uncompromising complacency and start fighting FOR the users

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Meanwhile, I’m technologically thick as shit and have no trouble using Mastodon at all. If I know someone is on there I’ll find their profile and follow them. Done.

It ain’t that complicated.

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Because the concept of federation is still impenetrable to a layperson

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8 points

It’s just not implemented well from a user standpoint imo.

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email. email is federated. literally everyone has an email address and understands they might be on a different service, but its all email, and you just use their account name and the service part with the @ in between.

it’s not a complicated subject at all, and a good chunk of the humans on earth have no experience being alive without a federated service being a part of their daily life. (lets not mention telephones, or national postal services)

the issue isn’t perceived complexity, it’s that the negatives of using a centralized service are outweighed by the benefits. people don’t see it as a personal liberty issue, or a free speech issue, or a propaganda issue, or a billionaire oligarchs ability to control the flow of information between citizens issue. they just want it to be easy to use. and the more people that do it, the less personal responsibility they feel about the choice.

learning from history is for suckers, I guess

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Mastodon does refuse to deal with its issues but i wouldnt say that about Lemmy. Lemmy just has a very small dev team working off no funding.

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I’ve heard rumours that Lemmy Devs run that Tankie Shit-hole Lemmy.ml

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Why don’t people want to use mastodon?

Because it doesn’t have a proper discover feed.

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But there is a discover feed in Mastodon, isn’t it ? That’s what I use to discover new accounts. Am I missing something ? For me Mastodon is way better that twitter and I wish more people used it.

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Not enough people on Mastodon are into the things I was using Twitter/use BlueSky for.

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That’s regular critical mass problem. The real question is why the Xitter exodee didn’t make it to mastodon in the first place?

When I investigated, I didn’t get past the account creation stage. Because each server is its own fiefdom and your account will largely be prisoner there, the more you get tangled on it, the more you become subject to its rules. I found that unacceptable.

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which mastadon instance to join?

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Yes, I never got past that stage. It seems most instances are either nazis, crybullies or flake. I guess first step of joining mastodon is buying a domain name to run a server instance on and then join mastodon as a single user instance. But then I assume most servers also ban single user instance and I just could not be bothered to join was is probably “worse twitter” when I never participated in the twitter mental illness in the first place.

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