Comment by Obinice@lemmy.world on Microsoft stealthily installs Windows 10 update to nag you to upgrade to Windows 11

A new patch is being quietly pushed to Windows 10 (and 11) PCs

It’ll force upgrades in certain circumstances to keep the PC in support

This update will mean more nag prompts coming to your PC

How is it gonna nag me to upgrade to Windows 11 when I don’t have a TPM?

I’d love to upgrade, the system is completely capable of running it, but because it doesn’t have a useless bit of hardware I can’t. Fuck em.

Mine said I couldn’t upgrade because of the no TPM thing. Turns out it’s just off by default on a lot of mobos.

Secondly, there’s a program called Rufus that can create a bootable flash drive with Windows 11 but removes stuff like the TPM requirements, the need for Microsoft account sign in, all the bad stuff etc

I’d been avoiding it for a year until I learned about Rufus but now that I’ve installed it, you know what? Without all the bloat, it’s a fucking smooth OS. Really excellent multitasking windows and fast too

Lemmy shits on it because “muh Linux” but if you install it right, it’s fucking excellent for the vast, vast majority of people

but if you install it right

Basically eliminates the vast majority of people who don’t have the technical knowledge to deal with Rufus

True, it’s as difficult as plugging in a flash drive and clicking three things

Your average yank can’t attempt to tie their shoes without accidentally committing genocide lol stay away from installing operating systems

as difficult as plugging in a flash drive

That’s a gross over-simplification

They have to

Download the windows ISO
- How do you find the original ISO and not a cracked one?
Get instructions to modify the ISO
- Hope you get the right set of instructions from a genuine website
Download Rufus and install
Make backup of their data
- Hope you disabled Bitlocker also
Reboot and press the F? key to change boot order (F? varies from system to system)
- How do you even find the right key for this?
Follow the installation process

One of the reasons Linux is not widespread is because following these “simple” instructions is too much for an average user. So I doubt a Windows user will be bothered to modify their OS. I have installed different variants of Linux 100s of time and even I need to check online if their are any hidden gotchas.

Exactly. You’d get your family “computer person” to do it.

If they care about the OS you want to use, they’ll upgrade to W11 this way.

If they’re obnoxious, self congratulatory Linux users, they’ll try to force you onto an OS you don’t understand

Which is better for the average person?

My only gripe with Windows 11 is how it constantly puts in crap I don’t like without my permission and I’ll have to spend time to remove it.

Other than that and the incoherent UI philosophy, the OS is pretty smooth.

We shit on it because you need a crack to make it work properly in the first place.

I don’t use linux for my desktop either though because my computer is a tool, not a hobby.

Don’t you want the best tool for the job?

Yup, that’s why I got a Mac. It works perfectly out of the box, no rugged edges apps, no drivers/hw concerns, excellent battery time. Best UNIX laptop for the time being.

I give you as main flaws the cost and the irreparability of the hardware and maybe missing out on a few games but that is probably a tie with Linux, since it runs the same emulators/transcoder if needed.

maybe missing out on a few games but that is probably a tie with Linux

As some one who runs both: no, not even close. Mac has more direct ports than Linux true, but proton vastly outweighs that. I have dozens of games that show up on steam on my mac as unplayable where as I dont have any that wont run under proton.

Five years ago you’d probably have been right, but Linux is far superior to OSX for gaming now.

(E: assuming you’re talking about an apple silicon macbook, IDK the status of proton on x86 macs maybe it works there?)

I’ll give you that as I honestly don’t care much about games so I don’t know much. I’ve read somewhere that apple has a game porting toolkit similar to proton and whisky was good enough the one time I wanted to launch a windows one but I don’t know if it’s any good.

Rufus is the first (and only) program I install on Windows =]

Was a bit tongue in cheek. Edge can download Linux. Rufus puts it on a USB stick, and goodbye Windows. Then, I can use my computer.

No, just familiarity what you’re sold on.

Yup, even though I’m 95% linux now, I realized that having a debloated windows on a separate drive for a small handful of stuff was easier than trying to make it work on Bazzite.

It’s not useless. It will enable MS to build the walled garden they want, where you are forced to use the software they permit you to and nothing else.

Euh… How? Coming from somebody that has a dualboot system with tpm and secure boot lol

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