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In 2016.

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Even more so in 2024, since we now saw exactly how he would be. He’s added 37 felony counts, the whole classified documents debacle, and more to his resume.

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Let’s not forget the deaths of over a million Americans due to a wholly inadequate pandemic response. But I stand by what I said, I already lost faith in 2016. It was apparent who he is back then and I am beyond disappointed in my fellow Americans.

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While Trump did a lot of shit, i am not sure if we can count the pandemic deaths on his cap. Looking at most European countries, they didn’t fare that much better. China with their full crackdown strategy seemed to only have delayed the pandemic to a later point and then just kept lying about their numbers. There is no way that China only had half a million cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Sort by “deaths per 1M pop”. The only clear indication is that countries that are known to be “poor” have much lower numbers, which probably has to do with a younger population on the one hand and a lack of consistent analysis and data aggregation on the other hand.

Trumps response definitely sucked and less people could have died, but realistically nowhere near the 1 Million. Especially as the US economy is relentless on poor people, so they have to work, no matter what. Anything short of seizing the billionaires wealth to keep the economy afloat would have kept the problem of economy vs. health. And no country did that afaik. For the US it would be unfathomable no matter the administration.

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It was never about him - well, certainly by 2020 - so much as it was to pwn the libs of “the other side”.

Democrats did not listen, once again, while Republicans did listen - each to their respective bases, i.e. Republicans were the better liars.

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so much as it was to pwn the libs of “the other side”.

This sort of attitude did not really exist in the same way before Trump.

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In 2016 he was a protest vote and he was a joke, by 2020 and 2024 he was no longer a joke he was full on fascism.

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