Minimal Voting Data of 2020 and 2024 US presidential election.(lemmy.world)

Even more so in 2024, since we now saw exactly how he would be. He’s added 37 felony counts, the whole classified documents debacle, and more to his resume.

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AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world

25 points

4 days ago

Let’s not forget the deaths of over a million Americans due to a wholly inadequate pandemic response. But I stand by what I said, I already lost faith in 2016. It was apparent who he is back then and I am beyond disappointed in my fellow Americans.

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Saleh@feddit.org

7 points

4 days ago

While Trump did a lot of shit, i am not sure if we can count the pandemic deaths on his cap. Looking at most European countries, they didn’t fare that much better. China with their full crackdown strategy seemed to only have delayed the pandemic to a later point and then just kept lying about their numbers. There is no way that China only had half a million cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Sort by “deaths per 1M pop”. The only clear indication is that countries that are known to be “poor” have much lower numbers, which probably has to do with a younger population on the one hand and a lack of consistent analysis and data aggregation on the other hand.

Trumps response definitely sucked and less people could have died, but realistically nowhere near the 1 Million. Especially as the US economy is relentless on poor people, so they have to work, no matter what. Anything short of seizing the billionaires wealth to keep the economy afloat would have kept the problem of economy vs. health. And no country did that afaik. For the US it would be unfathomable no matter the administration.

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OpenStars@piefed.social

2 points

4 days ago

It was never about him - well, certainly by 2020 - so much as it was to pwn the libs of “the other side”.

Democrats did not listen, once again, while Republicans did listen - each to their respective bases, i.e. Republicans were the better liars.

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go $fsck yourself@lemmy.world

3 points

4 days ago

so much as it was to pwn the libs of “the other side”.

This sort of attitude did not really exist in the same way before Trump.

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OpenStars@piefed.social

3 points

4 days ago

Yeah it existed but as a minor theme - certainly it was an argument against the playboy Bill Clinton. Then liberals tried to use it against Bush after 9/11 and the wars though it didn’t take, and it also seemed to be a good at least half of Kamala’s current strategy.

But as the billionaires have bought out each of the “news” organizations and converted them into for-profit machines, the attitude seems to have risen to the foreground to the point of being virtually the entirety of the argument to vote a certain way. i.e. ignore Trump’s being a convicted rapist and felon, and instead just pay attention to how Kamala will not do enough to lower the prices of eggs, even while forcing parents to allow their kids to come home as fully trans after deciding to get the surgery on a whim at school one day.

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1 point

3 days ago

In 2016 he was a protest vote and he was a joke, by 2020 and 2024 he was no longer a joke he was full on fascism.

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