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The rise of right-wing in Europe can be directly attributed to the massive influx of right-wing conservative ideologues from the middle East pouring in.

I’m a huge proponent of immigration, but what we’re seeing here is the backlash of immigration done incredibly poorly.

There will be articles for years that tap dance around with us, but if you listen to the people who are voting for right-wing assholes, it’s pretty clear why they’re doing it and what they’re saying. The Press has been bullied into avoiding talking about it though under the guise of islamophobia.

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The rise of right-wing in Europe can be directly attributed to the massive influx of right-wing conservative ideologues from the middle East pouring in.

You might want to think on this some more, because this seems like a bad take to say the least. The people coming from the Middle East to the EU are very diverse. In fact, it’s a big pull that there’s a lot more freedom here than in their home countries. Including the freedom to e.g. be openly gay.

Our societies have (largely informally) been segregating immigrants from the native-born citizens. We also didn’t prioritize education about e.g. Islam. This void has been abused by organizations sponsored by autocratic nations to infiltrate or societies. That’s one part of the issue.

Another is that xenophobia is privileged in all of our brains. And a third is that over the past few decades, our societies were reshuffled to make outcomes worse for poor people.

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I completely disagree is a bad take. I think you’re overlooking the reality that a right leaning Neo-Nazi has a lot in common with a conservative islamist.

You see it very clearly in Canada with the push to keep sex education out of classrooms being led by the far right PPC party and huge swaths of recently immigrated people from the middle East and Indian subcontinent. They use different methods but they have the same goals ultimately.

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I honestly think that no matter what we’re doing the right would have a problem with migration because they want to go back to a white supremacist kind of society. We’re hearing the same shit how about Syrians and Ukrainians now that we heard in the 90s about Russian and Yugoslavian people, in the 60s/70s about Italian, Spanish, Polish, Turkish people and in the 40s/50s about German refugees.

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I’d disagree with that. For 50 years Canada did pretty well letting in controlled numbers of people from around the world. Then they opened the flood gates and problems started.

I’m not sure it’s about being black and white, i feel like it’s more about people feeling the need to integrate which doesn’t happen when you arrive with 100,000 of your countrymates.

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What do you mean with them „opening the flood gates“? I would be interested to see some data on that. AFAIK Canada has one of the strictest migration politics in the world.

In Germany we now have people whose grandparents have migrated to Germany, but they’re still not considered „true“ Germans just because of their names, looks and religion. Even though in the Americas they have their own racist things going on, the normal thing is that if you’re a citizen, people won’t doubt that you’re American.

The same isn’t true in European countries and as I said it didn’t actually matter where people were from, German society was incredibly hostile towards German refugees after the 2nd world war, where there was little need to integrate or learn the language, yet the rhetoric was surprisingly similar to that about e.g. Syrians today.

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While I don’t disagree, it is possible that populism is exacerbated both by misery and by potentially legitimate anti-immigration sentiments.

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