Summary
A 15-year-old boy was sentenced to life in prison for fatally stabbing a stranger, Muhammad Hassam Ali, after a brief conversation in Birmingham city center. The second boy, who stood by, was sentenced to five years in secure accommodation. Ali’s family expressed their grief, describing him as a budding engineer whose life was tragically cut short.
Now I don’t know where you’re from but around here four year olds are unsupervised in public.
I suspect you misspoke. 4-year-olds require 24/7 supervision from a parent, guardian, or other caregiver in public or private. Failure to continuously supervise a 4-year-old you are responsible for is a chargeable offense.
It’s also not about the concept, but about what is considered right and what’s wrong,
It is about the capacity to understand right and wrong about a given act. Children much younger than 15 are expected to understand the general legal and moral implications of murder.
You have no idea what his psychology looks like
Untrue. I know he was subjected to numerous hearings and evaluations to determine his competency. He was found to not have sufficiently diminished capacity to excuse or mitigate his actions.
Failure to continuously supervise a 4-year-old you are responsible for is a chargeable offense.
I’m sorry you’re living under fascism.
He was found to not have sufficiently diminished capacity to excuse or mitigate his actions.
Which does not mean that he is responsible for being the way that he is. Criminal insanity is a rare thing and, as a verdict, not actually that preferable. Doubly so criminal insanity as a juvenile, who are, yes, judged by different standards because their brains aren’t there, yet.
I suggest you learn something about developmental psychology.
I’m sorry you’re living under fascism.
Ad hominem.
Which does not mean that he is responsible for being the way that he is.
“The way he is” is “responsible for his own actions”. He has been found to have the mental capacity necessary to comprehend the difference between the “rightness” and “wrongness” of jamming a knife into another human.
Some people should just never see the light of day again. This kid is one of them.
Ad hominem.
I’m not attacking your person, I’m attacking whatever backwater government you’re living under for having such inane laws.
He has been found to have the mental capacity necessary to comprehend the difference between the “rightness” and “wrongness” of jamming a knife into another human.
He has been found to have the capacity necessary to stand trial in juvenile court. Those standards are different than for adults because, and I’ll say this again: Juveniles are not fully developed. They don’t have the same mental capacity.
Some people should just never see the light of day again. This kid is one of them.
If, at the ripe age of 90, he’s still messed up then I’d agree with you. But there’s quite a couple of decades until then.
As said: You’re out for blood, plain and simple. You know nothing of understanding, of forgiveness, or you would be more lenient, you know nothing about justice or you would take into account that he’s a kid, and you certainly know nothing about developmental psychology.
You should be kept as far away from the justice system as possible. I don’t consider you unredeemable, but by the way you dig in your heels and refuse to listen to arguments it’s going to be a while before that restriction can be lifted.
