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Exactly. It was a douche and a turd sandwich. Refusing to vote because “they’re a turd sandwich” is simply saying “I’m okay with the douche”. It’s a 2 party system. There are no good candidates. Only one that’s marginally better than the other. Not voting is tacitly voting for the worst one.

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Not a USAmerican, but by that logic:
Are Kamala, her party and her supporters who couldn’t get those people to vote for Kamala also responsible for the increased suffering?

Are they responsible for the people not being convinced that the suffering would be lesser under Kamala?

Did Kamala and party show significant effort and good faith to woo those people?
Or was it the 99% Hitler vs 100% Hitler thing? Asking since most online discourse I saw on it here in lemmy was like that, where they’re saying Trump would be worse, instead of saying that Kamala would be better, de-escalate stuff etc.

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there’s plenty of blame to go around; no 1, 2, or 3 people or groups are to blame

best we can hope for now is for netanyahu to bruise the orange ego somehow and find out what petty retaliation looks like

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Yes, they are morally culpable too. Even more so than the people who refused to vote for them.

That’s the thing about ethics when you actually apply it in reality; someone else being wrong doesn’t mean you’re right.

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Increased suffering?
How can their suffering be increased more than it is now?

Israel is already getting everything could have ever wished for. There is nothing trump could do to make that worse.

There were other reasons to vote for Harris, but this wasn’t one.

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Edit: looks like I replied under the wrong comment. Sorry about that. :)

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