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-25 points

There you go. Blame progressives and people that wanted good things. Attack the people that want change, rather than demand Democrats change anything. That’ll certainly get you a victory like it did this time. Is your new plan in 2028 to just attack everyone who isn’t blindly loyal?

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Blame progressives and people that wanted good things

Was genocide a matter in 2012 or 2016? 2020? If 2012, 2016 and 2024 are same numbers, I’d think it’s safe to point to similar conditions in mindset.

I don’t blame the sky for being blue, it just is.

rather than demand Democrats change anything

This part doesn’t make any sense. You can’t solve a problem without first identifying the problem. You can’t change anything if you deny the thing that needs to change. Am I missing some core argument of yours?

Is your new plan in 2028 to just attack everyone who isn’t blindly loyal?

I’m not attacking them. Apathy is a thing. Happens. If some coach comes out and doesn’t motivate their team, are we blaming the players for not getting excited enough? Like I don’t understand your perspective here. Do you want Democrats to change or not? Because if sounds like whenever someone addresses the issue you knee-jerk into “I’m BeInG aTtAcKeD!!!”

It needs to be said. That’s all there is to it.

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Yes I will blame the ultra progressives who annoy me almost as much as maga. Ya’ll just love to “talk” about change but you just cause more chaos for dems. Hope you enjoy living under MAGA because of your fucking pride.

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Don’t worry, he’ll live comfortably with himself because all the bad things MAGA will do in the next 4 years and beyond will be the Dems fault. No self reflection or personal accountability will occur.

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It’s all talk. These people are just lazy and their heroes are lazy. I pointed out to someone earlier that Jill Stein was not an option on the Indiana ballot even as a write-in because candidates have to be declared as write-ins. And all Jill Stein’s campaign had to do to be a write-in on the Indiana ballot was file a two-page form. That’s it. They threw a big fit and tried to show that it wasn’t true by pointing out a court case where the Greens and Libertarians sued to be on the ballot properly, not just as a write-in.

Just pure laziness. They weren’t willing to put in an effort, they just posted endless rude and harassing things online for months and did nothing to help.

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Is there any evidence to support the claim that ultra-progressives caused Harris to lose?

@politicalmemes

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Quick google search and you can for it yourself.

I’ll just post the very first link

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-wins-election-results-2024-progressive-democrats-rcna178206

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You’re mad, we get it. Still, if you’re not even wondering if Dems did the wrong thing by forcing Harris as the candidate then we’re not going to win next time either. We had Progressive Obama win in convincing fashion twice, followed by three neoliberals in a row with only one of them being able to eke out a win. That should paint a pretty clear picture of what we need to do to win going forward and it’s not trying the same fucking thing for a fourth time in a row.

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I don’t really give two damns about your reasons. You want Trump in office? You got him.

I’m already rich so putting Trump in office only helps people like me. Thanks man, keep it up!

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