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I like my car safe, but dumb as rocks otherwise.

I always find that funny. I got my first car with radars and auto adjusting cruise control and so on and it’s much safer than the 2 years older Jetta I was driving before. If I’m distracted it warns me if there’s something on the road, it warns me if I act tired (swaying and going over the lines), if cruise is on it automatically slows down if the car in front of me slows down without braking…

You’re like people complaining about ABS in the motorcycle world even though it brakes faster than the majority of riders in conditions where it turns on…

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I think they’re talking about subscriptions to use features that are already on the car. Connected services like remote start as a service can eat shit.

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Indeed.

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Safety systems are just fine.

ABS, lane deviation warnings, automatic braking and the like all actively prevent accidents - without being an annoyance to the driver, if implemented well. That tech is mature now and generally ok across the board.

I dislike all kinds of cruise and attempts at self driving though. More of a personal preference, but I think it makes the driver cede too much of their control to the vehicle - allowing them to become more easily distracted and less able to notice incoming hazards that the vehicle might not.

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I don’t want my car sending any data out to anywhere, that’s all. And all those features should be able to be manually disabled, because I personally am not a distracted or tired/drunk driver so I don’t need any of that stuff.

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