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22 points

One day we will just stick with standard time.

(Or we’ll try permanent DST and experience all of the negative effects and then either go back to cycling or realize we should’ve done permanent standard.)

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8 points

Or we’ll realize that the specific numbers are arbitrary and use UTC everywhere.

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It’s almost 22 UTC

Which is 5pm EST

8am EST is when most work starts

That’s 15 hours from now

So work would start at 13 UTC

Yes, these are arbitrary numbers. Doesn’t matter if we go to work at 8am EST or 13 UTC.

However, this has nothing to do with daylight savings time or with what daylight savings time is trying to accomplish.

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China does a variant of this where the whole country is on Beijing time. 99% Invisible did an episode that covered it here: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/matters-of-time/

Basically the local Uyghur population in Xinjiang code switch and maintain an unofficial local time which aligns more closely with the movement of the sun.

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You are right, but do you really want to deal with the confusion of having to wake up at some random number like 4pm UTC? And then if you finally get used to that you travel abroad and now you have to wake up at 1am? Timezones are a mess but if done correctly, they make sense because the numbers won’t be arbitrary.

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I don’t see how dealing with that is any worse than dealing with time zones.

Downside of UTC everywhere: you might have to set your alarm for a different time when you travel.

Upsides: Never need to account for timezones in communication. Never need to change a clock, ever.

They make sense because the numbers won’t be arbitrary.

But they are. There’s no changing that. They’re arbitrary now. They’d be arbitrary if we had UTC everywhere. We’re not out here using sundials to set our clocks, 12:00 is not solar noon more often than it is.

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5 points

Drop “daylight savings time” and “standard time” monikers. Use UTC offsets, and tell us what state you are in.

New York and Michigan are currently in the same time zone. When we go to permanent time, they should not be.

Michigan in UTC-4 (EDT) winter would have a sunrise after 9AM. That’s fucking absurd; they should not be on UTC-4 during winter. They should be permanently on UTC-5.

New York in UTC-5 (EST) would have a summer sunrise before 4AM. That’s fucking absurd. They should not be on UTC-5 in the summer. They should be permanently on UTC-4.

Maine’s earliest sunset on UTC-5 will be at 3:45PM. That is criminally insane. They should permanently be on UTC-4, or maybe even UTC-3.

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The negative effects are either due to the act of changing the clocks forward implemented in such a way as to deprive everyone everywhere an hour of sleep, or something something natural light in the morning. Which is not a benefit of “standard” or “daylight savings” time, it’s a complete and utter failure of “work starts at 6AM and ends at 10PM.”

The solution: Lynch all the rich people. If there’s no one to be forced to build wealth for, we won’t have to work such long hours and we can get up and have free time in daylight.

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5 points

It is amazing how many problems would be resolved with liberal use of (figurative) guillotines.

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This article is stupid. In the winter it’s dark when I get up for work and it’s dark when I done witn work.

If we adopt permanent DST, the simple answer is just shift your daily schedule accordingly.

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Lol it even implies that living on the Western edge of a time zone increases your likelihood of breast cancer. Get the fuck out of here

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