Ukrainian president calls on countries to step in before troops sent to Russia by Pyongyang reach battlefield

Ukraine’s president urged allies to stop “watching” and take steps before North Korean troops deployed in Russia reach the battlefield, while the army chief said his troops were facing “one of the most powerful offensives” by Moscow since the full-scale war began.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy raised the prospect of a pre-emptive Ukrainian strike on camps where the North Korean troops are being trained and said Kyiv knows their location. But he said Ukraine can’t do it without permission from allies to use western-made long-range weapons to hit targets deep inside Russia.

“But instead … America is watching, Britain is watching, Germany is watching. Everyone is just waiting for the North Korean military to start attacking Ukrainians as well,” Zelenskyy said in a post late on Friday on the Telegram messaging app.

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So having western troops in Ukraine should also be fine if they stop at the russian border right?

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We don’t want that

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Who’s “we”? Sounds like a proportionate response to me.

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I wouldnt be presumptious enough to say we, but I would really prefer the war not escalate further. Im all in for ukraine, and definitely fuck east-ukraine, but I don’t want American troops deployed in ukraine outside of advisory and training positions. I dont have great jusitifcations as to why, politics are hard, but I don’t feel its the US’ job to directly police the rest of the world, so Id prefer us to not directly combat other countries unless they’ve directly attacked us.

History certainly has a role to play here, which sucks because its always been my worst subject, but an eye for an eye seems to be at odds with peace which is obviously ideal. That is why I said my justifications arent great. It doesnt help that I do support foreign benevolent intervention, but not directly through force. And, as always, defining ‘benevolent’ in terms of an authoritarian regime engaging in foreign intervention of any kind is… difficult.

Edit: i forgot to mention: what we should be doing is allowing ukraine use of any non-warcrime western version of any weapon that east-ukraine is confirmed to use against them. We should also be quietly investing massive amounts of cyber resources into disabling russias nuclear launch systems and crippling putins stranglehold on their government by fucking with his finances specifically.

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This will start ww3.

Sorry but Ukraine is not my problem, no matter how the military industrial complex tries to push the narrative.

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“Czechoslovakia is not my problem” vibes. How did that end up?

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Everyone tries to find some historical parallels.
There aren’t any, completely different times and different situation.

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The rise of ductators who want to seize other countries’ territories is your problem, and the sooner it’s stopped, the better it is.

When will it become your problem? I think you’re a US citizen so probably for you Lisbon (in Portugal, extreme West of Europe) could have Russian troops in it and you still wouldn’t care, right?

Well, thinking this way has proven to be so wrong because sooner or later you will be the next in line.

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It wouldn’t start ww3, Russia is a joke power, they’d fold faster than superman on laundry day.

They are not serious people.

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I think they absolutely will.

And Biden as well believes that and repeatedly said that he believes that.

All the red lines were talked over in private prior to 2022.

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