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-12 points

Fuck ads and fuck subscriptions

How do you imagine developers and content creators to get paid if neither of these two options is acceptable to you?

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33 points

Honestly mate, I am not a tankie or even politically left in my country, but when looking at the insane results for these enormous companies and the ever increasing greed with ads/price hikes, I’ve just had enough.

I know it’s not morally right to steal, but I refuse to support companies like Alphabet paying their CEO 200+ million a year. If they manage to block me out when skirting their ads, then I’ll find something else to spend my time on.

So you’re right, I just don’t care anymore.

I do pay for Nebula though!

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100%

Your local library usually has a host of FREE media types. Including regular ol books, which thankfully still remain ad-free.

(But also movies, and digital readers, and news articles, etc).

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Pay por the permanent ownership of the sold product.

As they say. If selling isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing.

If a seller doesn’t give me option to own their products I will certainly never steal them.

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6 points

But how do you apply this to a platform like YouTube? I don’t want to have to buy each video I watch.

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0 points

Sell “seasons”.

Put a prize on all videos released during each year. But once that’s paid I can have those videos forever.

No point on having to pay a monthly subscription forever to watch a video made 10 years ago from a youtuber that’s no longer active (maybe even alive).

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15 points

by selling me a license that lets me run their software on my own machine, not theirs. Like in the old times

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-11 points

Doesn’t quite work with something like streaming services

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well stop fucking streaming and let me buy the damn content

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It could if they actually let you download the content for a change.

And no I mean original quality, not split up undecipherable files that are hard to organize outside of their platform

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11 points

Theres A difference between running a profitable buisness and ruining the whole user experience to please the shareholders.

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-5 points

Ok, but ‘fuck subscriptions’ is a blanket statement directed at the subscribtion business model as whole, including the hypothetical well run, and non-greedy ones.

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11 points

Am a developer, please do not pay for any software subscription if you don’t think it’s worth it.

Us devs would love to give the best experience, but if the customer is willing to pay for a shit experience, guess which path management makes you take.

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11 points

Not everything should be for profit. I 'member the good old days when people made poorly designed website to share their passion and help others. I 'member the good old days when people developed freewares, even proprietary softwares, just for the fun of it.

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3 points

Sure, but it’s also a fact that many of the YouTubers whose videos I deeply enjoy wouldn’t be able to make them if it didn’t make them any money

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7 points

Which is why I would rather go with spending my money on YouTubers via things like Patreon, Kofi, GitHub Sponsers or even just get some merch. I would much rather go that route than spend money on YouTube to just not have ads. Yes, it’s a subscription, but at least from one of the creators that I watch, even just 1 dollar a month is much more money than what they get from ad revenue from a single person

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6 points

My favorite subscription is when I buy a “lifetime license” to a software and then 4 years later they move to SaaS. And now I just pay to beta test the software.

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6 points

I spend LOTS of money on physical media. Like on the order of thousands per year. If a company doesn’t release their media physically, I figure they don’t want my money and just pirate it.

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How do you apply this to a platform like YouTube? I don’t even finish most of the videos I start watching there, and the ones I do, I’ll likely never watch again anyway. Subscribtion seems much more logical profit model to a company like that.

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3 points

That’s fair. Nebula, Patreon, and Floatplane are the three “streaming” subscriptions I keep because much of the money goes straight to the creative involved.

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1 point

Free video sharing platforms are basically not viable as a business model. For a free and open internet to succeed, YouTube has to fail. At the moment, it only exists because Google subsidises it.

The ideal way for video sharing to work is for large content creators to set up their own federated video hosting websites (or pay for someone else to do it for them) and potentially offer some small amount of free capacity for those who want to upload small, not-for-profit videos

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-2 points

You don’t need to pay a subscription fee to watch YouTube. What are you even talking about?

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5 points

One-time purchases.

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FUCK CONTENT, LET ALL THE MINDLESS DISTRACTION DIE, WE’D BE BETTER OFF IN THE STREETS, SPENDING TIME TOGETHER, BUILDING SOMETHING, ACTUALLY TALKING TO EACH OTHER!
Says a tiny edgelord in me. I would never write something like this, I’m an adult.

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4 points

You are just three tiny edgelords in a trenchcoat, aren’t you?

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