Anyone know why this bullshit is being allowed by govt?
How did voice over LTE end up needing carrier software approval on top of having the right hardware?
Is this telcos writing legislation for yet another ignorant communications minister?
All I see is limited consumer choice, generation of completely unnecessary e-waste and a giant โfuck offโ sign to international tourists.
Itโs pretty similar to the analogue tv signal shutdown in 2010. The difference though was you could buy a digital tuner and plug it into your tv and keep using it.
3G is taking up a lot of spectrum space and they need to free it up for future data technology. It is also used by a very small (and shrinking) percentage of people, while costing too much to maintain.
It has to die. Telcos gave more than a yearโs warning. Then an extended grace period. I donโt really know how they could have done this without annoying some people.
While I move in a bubble of nerds who tend to have decent gear, I donโt actually know anyone affected by this shutdown first-hand.
But that Spectrum being used for 3G is beneficial. Not just for support of older devices but also increased, redundant coverage.
This purely Corporate Welfare legislation, which is going to backfire on the corporations when they realise they have to build more infrastructure to provide the same coverage.
It is going to be detrimental to product consumers because they wonโt have the same amount of coverage. Also, the higher bandwidth of 5G is going to increase backhaul requirements which mean that the person calling 000 using VoLTE will need to compete with the person steaming 4K Netflix while playing CoD.
The only winners in the long-term will be the advertisers and data miners, who somehow manage to bloat a 4kB website to 40mB.
They gave minimal warning about the emergency calling issue, and only a few weeks warning on the fact that โnon-compliantโ devices would be outright blocked (and each network has their own method on deciding on what is or isnโt compliant).
And even the requirement for VoLTE support wasnโt communicated early on.
Nevertheless, I agree that 3g needs to go just that itโs been characterised by poor communication and heavy handedness.
thereโs a few people I know thatโs been affected btw
i get that thereโs a need for 3g to be shut down but thereโs no need to ban phones with 4g data capability that canโt call without 3g (lacking voip implementation), the telcos couldโve just provided an app to do it because voip is just a protocol over ip
itโs pretty fucking obvious that the telcos bribed the government into forcing them to block these devices because they get more money that way, they donโt have to pay for the ewaste they artificially create and they donโt look bad because they can just say that theyโre โforced by legislationโ to do so
How do the telcos get more money? A few phone sales are not going to do anything to their profits. They own the 3G infrastructure, itโs theirs. They could have legally turned it off years ago and thereโs nothing anyone (including the government) could have done about it. Forcing them to sell a service is no different to forcing Woolies to sell your favourite brand of peanut butter. You can argue that the Government of the day should never have sold 100+ years of infrastructure investment and only privatised the retail side of Telstra - and would 100% agree with you. But that horse bolted 30 years ago. The simple truth is that all our phones rely on three companies and with few exceptions, there are no guarantees the service will work. As that Optus outage a year ago demonstrated.
Iโm all about bashing on the telcos when they deserve it. But theyโve handled this about as nicely as was possible. Theyโve been warning everyone for over a year. Theyโve been individually messaging affected phones for months. Nobody can really say they didnโt get warning.
I donโt really agree with blocking IMEIs of phones they didnโt sell because theyโre not sure theyโll work without 3G. But I see the reasoning for it. They canโt make a regular call today, but they can make an emergency call. They are forcing that pain now, while the phone can still call in an emergency instead of it dropping totally off the network at a future date when it canโt make any sort of call. Iโd have gone the other direction to give those customers more time. I recognise though that some people simply would not have done anything until they were forced to - no matter how much time they were given.
a giant โfuck offโ sign to international tourists.
Thatโs what Iโm wondering about. Will data only tourist sim/esim work as usual, or will โincompatibleโ 4G devices be blocked in this situation, too?
One would think that tourist sims would work because they are data only, but who knows?!
