KEY TAKEAWAYS
- Swedish Minister wants to deport migrants who do not hold Swedish citizenship if they show support to terrorist groups.
- The spokesperson for migration policy in Sweden wants the law to be even more stringent - to include anyone who shows such acts of support.
- Tourists, citizens, and residence permit holders can all be affected by such changes.
It’s a bad situation. Muslim culture is incompatible with Swedish values. This is why Sweden is starting to lean to the right and there is growth with the nazis. The Swedes are very kind people and they wanted to help but this mass Muslim migration has backfired on them pretty bad. There are now much more attacks on women and LGBT people. The crime has skyrocketed. Rapes have skyrocketed. I travel back and forth between the USA and Sweden often to visit family, and have steadily watched how things have gotten worse.
i mean, no. there is nothing in “Muslim culture” about forming criminal gangs and throwing grenades. this is all about our social systems breaking down due to being overloaded. it’s an integration failure on the state’s part. people were put in places that were already not well off and that forms societal black holes where it is very difficult to get away. organized crime then seems very attractive.
the attacks on women and hbtq+ people are by those selfsame nazis. crime has, interestingly enough, stayed the same. violent crime has risen, yes, but other crime has fallen as a result.
rapes have not skyrocketed. this is a common right-wing talking point outside of sweden, and “ex-pats” love using this as an example of how the country has gone to shit. what actually happened was we changed the way crimes are reported, to make things that were formerly sexual harassment classify as rape of some degree. this is a good thing, as it highlights these behaviours as unacceptable rather than them just being tolerated.
honestly, it sounds like you should talk to more people while visiting.
If the social systems are breaking down from being overloaded, it sounds like too many immigrants were accepted and some need to be sent back.
Or, since the funding for the social systems have been decreased and changed over the last 30 years, that might be a cause. Who knows…
Peak ignorance right here. It’s a combination of factors. The origin point is indeed the utter failure to set up proper integration systems and regulate migration during the 2010s, which in turn meant that the people who came here were not educated in Swedish language, laws and values, leaving them outside the jobs market. It is also made worse by the fact that a significant portion of the people who came during that period have been brought up in cultures with highly incompatible views and values (for a concrete example, considering secular law a subordinate to religious shariah laws) , which makes integration that much more difficult. After some 7 years, only a third of adult Syrians have managed to get jobs - compare this to recent Ukranian refugees, where 2/3rds have jobs after two years.
For instance, whilst I worked in healthcare in Sweden, we on several occasions had patients refuse care from female coworkers on account of them being women. Something basically previously unheard of that’s became a recurring issue. Every time it happened, it was a non-Swede, and oftentimes they had difficulties with speaking the language. Now I’ve had plenty of Swedish patients who were casually misogynistic against my coworkers, but never to the degree that they would demand to be treated by a man and outright refuse care.
rapes have not skyrocketed. this is a common right-wing talking point outside of sweden, and “ex-pats” love using this as an example of how the country has gone to shit. what actually happened was we changed the way crimes are reported, to make things that were formerly sexual harassment classify as rape of some degree. this is a good thing, as it highlights these behaviours as unacceptable rather than them just being tolerated.
I have included some pertinent statistics from the past twenty years [Source is BRÅ (Swedish ministry for crime prevention) - www.bra.se]
There has long trend of increasing sexual crimes of almost all types in Sweden (The only exception is sexual coercion), the change in definitions was limited, and is really only a minor confounding factor when compared to the overall picture. Besides, in 2019 they did their best to split out the expanded definitions (see rows 3 & 4) and the number of crimes covered are very small in comparison to the whole.
As for the demographics of those convicted, I find this far less relevant. Migrants are the victims in the majority of crimes committed by migrants (and the criminals and terrorists in question represent a minority of that group). As such, upholding the law is as much for the sake of the larger migrant community as for Swedish society as a whole.
However, if you’re still interested in the connections between demographics and crime, you can read here:
this is good data. it feels weird to open a post with an insult only to then align with what i said albeit with more nuance than i could be bothered to add in a post on an internet forum. the brå statistic is a bit more dour than i’d wished. it would be interesting to see the number per capita, as our population has swelled a lot since 2000.
and yeah, the values thing. i am all for “when in rome”, and that seems increasingly uncommon. i have never encountered it personally but it is obviously happening. i wouldn’t take it as far as the previous guy did though, because you get into Nyheter Idag territory if you go that way.
also the research article cuts off before the migrant crisis started…
Literally all of this is true lol. Was just in Sweden last month. Got this information from first hand experience and talking to people in the Gothenburg area.
Also
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/b1ticq22a
And
https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/sweden-immigrants-crisis/
And
Oh, please. Claiming that “Muslim culture” and Swedish values are incompatible is just ignorant and islamophobic.
https://bra.se/statistik/kriminalstatistik/anmalda-brott.html shows that the amount of reported crimes are about the same since 2014 with a slight decrease since 2020. Where’s the skyrocketing?
https://bra.se/statistik/statistik-om-brottstyper/valdtakt-och-sexualbrott.html there was a spike in reported rapes after 2014 since the definition of rape was altered, but that has decreased since 2016. Raping your wife is considered rape in Sweden now, which it isn’t in parts of the US and, for example, France. Can you show the skyrocketing part and explain how it is related to immigration?
You can check yourself for your claims about attacks on women and LBTQ yourself since it’s a bit of a hassle to present here, but you’re still wrong.
Great, I live in Sweden, in Göteborgsområdet and can first hand tell you that you’re being misinformed.
