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It’s not ad hominem to point out that all of your criticisms are for the Democrats and you can barely muster half a sentence of admission that trump might not be the savior of Gaza you’re implying, and that your whole argument is politically biased against the Democrats and for the republicans.

If you don’t want to be accused of being a trump supporter, at least make some effort towards even a tiny bit of balance. But no, you can’t do it. For you, any factual criticism of trump and the republicans must be countered by a wall of conspiracy theory about how Biden’s attempts to negotiate peace are secretly war mongering and trump’s open and boastful war mongering is swept under the carpet.

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you can barely muster half a sentence of admission that trump might not be the savior of Gaza you’re implying

I challenge you to find one thing I have said, at any time, anywhere, that implies that. You are simply lying, and again, attempting to discredit me because you know you can’t address my points.

If you don’t want to be accused of being a trump supporter, at least make some effort towards even a tiny bit of balance.

I respond to what I see. Point me to any Trump supporter on here and I will tell them why they’re wrong. It’s just that the vast majority of people on here, myself included, are quite clear in recognizing Trump as an awful candidate who isn’t worthy of serious consideration at all.

For you, any factual criticism of trump and the republicans must be countered by a wall of conspiracy theory about how Biden’s attempts to negotiate peace

Very rich of you to call my position on that a “conspiracy theory,” when mine is backed by actual facts and yours isn’t. If Biden or Kamala cared at all about stopping the genocide, they could do it in four words: “No aid until withdrawal.” It’s ridiculously easy.

You can not provide any explanation for why they don’t do this. The only thing you can do is completely dismiss any and all criticism of your candidate, the exact same way Trump supporters do.

I have zero loyalty to the Democrats or to the Republicans, I’m quite open to that, yet you keep insisting that I have to demonstrate loyalty to your side or I’m automatically a bad actor. It’s ridiculously tribalistic. This sort of behavior, people brainwashing themselves into ignoring reality, automatically dismissing all criticism, and unthinkingly championing every action of absolute ghouls, and sorting every single individual into one of two camps, is one of the reasons I want nothing to do with either of your backwards parties.

I tell you I hate Trump, you tell me I love Trump, and when I tell Trump supporters I hate Biden or Harris, they tell me I love Biden and Harris, for exactly the same reasons. What a boring, small world you all live in together, where those two perspectives are all that exist. I want nothing of it.

Now go ahead and respond to me without answering my criticisms (since you cannot, since they are objectively correct) and keep focusing on who (you think) I am, rather than what I say.

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When you spend all day every day criticising the vice president for things that she doesn’t even have control over, when you dismiss the fact that Trump is actively convincing the one man who can actually decide to stop it to walk away from Biden’s ceasefire deal, when all you talk about is how evil the Democrats are and ignore our dismiss or minimise anything bad about the republicans, less than a week before the election, don’t be surprised or upset if people call you a trump supporter, because your actions certainly support him becoming president and not taking that threat seriously is foolish.

I challenge you to find one thing I have said, at any time, anywhere, that implies that.

It’s not a single statement, it’s a wall of argument. It’s everything, you can’t help yourself. The whole thrust of your argument, and there’s a lot of it, implies your condemn the Democrats, excuse and condone the Republicans position.

It’s the same in the very part I’m replying to. There’s one sentence of criticism of Trump in the middle of a very long argument about how I’m wrong about everything I ever said and the Democrats are evil incarnate and me being so nasty to you is why you dislike Kamala and how everything wrong in the world can be laid at the feet of the Democrats again.

Your bias shines through. You’re both sidesing the whole thing.

It’s disingenuous. It’s sometimes clever, sometimes subtle, sometimes obvious, sometimes unsubtle, but it’s always a false equivalence. I don’t buy your sham theoretical neutrality any more than I buy utility contracts on my doorstep.

Again, if you don’t like being called a Republican or a trump supporter, don’t spend all day repeating their talking points on the internet and heckling anyone who has anything bad to say about Trump or anything good to say about Harris, and don’t conclude in every single post that it’s all Kamala’s fault and she could snap her fingers now to stop it. It isn’t and she can’t.

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Now go ahead and respond to me without answering my criticisms (since you cannot, since they are objectively correct) and keep focusing on who (you think) I am, rather than what I say.

Called it.

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