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-9 points

2 months ago

I italicized something because I believe the west (including France, in this case) does deserve some kind of punishment for their crimes against Palestine. Obviously I don’t think countries who had nothing to do with this genocide need be punished, but at this point much of the western world has enabled it either by direct material contribution or by a failure to boycott, divest, or sanction Israel for their crimes.

It’s not up to me to decide what that justice is or how it’s administered, but I don’t think there’s any arguing that there shouldn’t be some measure of justice for Palestine. Unless you believe Israel has done nothing wrong…?

This is a fantasy

Yup, that’s all we have, because as you alluded to: this is the west’s global hegemony, we’re just living in it.

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goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM

7 points

2 months ago

And how about Iran, China and Russia? Do they also get this punishment?

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-5 points

2 months ago

Sorry, maybe I’m unfamiliar: how are they involved in Israel’s genocide…? Or is that off-topic?

But funny you should mention three of the most sanctioned countries in the world as examples, because what I’m advocating for is just a bit of consistency

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goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM

8 points

2 months ago

Should they also get punishment for their crimes against Palestine? Such as Iran aiding Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah, effectively instigating more war? And China and Russia’s support of Iran and their mutual exchange of military equipment, intelligence, as well as their extensive propaganda networks?

Or is that off-topic?

Vaguely off-topic, yes, the post is related more to the tankies wishing more Charlie Hebdo massacres, which I’m glad you’ve disavowed. However, their calls for violence are in reaction to Israel-Palestine. For some reason, they believe France, of all countries, deserves massacres for their stance. Rather funny really, shows their ignorance.

Do you believe this is off-topic? If you think it is, we can drop it.

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-6 points

2 months ago

Should they also get punishment for their crimes against Palestine? Such as Iran aiding Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah, effectively instigating more war?

They are already being sanctioned for this. Meanwhile, the parties currently committing genocide and all of their collaborators have yet to see any repercussions for their contributions. Hell, as long as we’re talking about Iran and the funding of terrorists, would you like to talk about the US funding and providing arms during the Kurdish-genocide? I wonder who (if anyone) was sanctioned for that conflict

Do you believe this is off-topic?

I believe your mention of Iran, China, and Russia is off-topic from the OP, which was about France and the openly racist/islamaphobic cartoon depicting the famine in Gaza. I can only imagine why you might be actively avoiding that topic, even going so far as to clip out the main post and obfuscate the context, including describing the french OP as “anti-Islam”.

I can only assume that omission was an innocent mistake and not in any way motivated by a personal bias against Islam.

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goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM

6 points

2 months ago

They are already being sanctioned for this.

These countries have also sanctioned the US, though not in response to the conflict. Sanctions work both ways, you see. However, multiple countries have called for sanctions against Israel and multiple countries have placed tariffs on Israel, Turkey being the most prominent. So there we go, then, justice solved, there’s sanctions and tariffs.

I can only imagine why you might be actively avoiding that topic, even going so far as to clip out the main post and obfuscate the context, including describing the french OP as “anti-Islam”.

No context justifies calls for violence.

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-5 points

2 months ago

These countries have also sanctioned the US, though not in response to the conflict.

I’ll wait for you to tell me which of the sanctions you’re referencing prevent the US from conducting business or financial transactions with major trade partners and that have the weight of the UN Security Council behind them, such as the ones for Iran, China, and Russia, and which have the adherence of the UN and its member states.

A council who’s mission is to promote world peace through unity should be able to pass sanctions against member states that are egregiously culpable for war crimes against civilian populations and genocide. Yet here we are still waiting

No context justifies calls for violence.

Still waiting for your opinion on the cartoon you decided wasn’t worthy of inclusion. I’d settle for your opinion on Islam as a whole, since you seem keen on highlighting islamic terrorism but loath to mention christian, jewish, and secular terrorism.

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