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The codebreaker/casino arc in The Last Jedi

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I have so many complaints about that movie but THIS is number one. The entire thing is a complete waste of time, all set about because Poe got turned into an insubordinate, hotheaded moron. Doesn’t help that Holdo has a perfectly functional plan she won’t share with anyone instead preferring to let them believe they’re all going to die, but frankly the movie is just a series of stupid, terrible decisions in a row from every character and above all, the director.

Can you tell I hate this movie?

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35 points

The hyperspace collision as a weapon is worldbreaking.

If that works in the Star Wars universe, in A New Hope, why didn’t the Rebellion just get large asteroids and attach hyperspace engines to them and aim them at the Death Star. Asteroids traveling at hyperspace speeds, especially hundreds of them would be unstoppable and not a single Rebel life would have been in danger.

Poe got turned into an insubordinate, hotheaded moron.

This made no sense to me. Poe, in the Last Jedi, acts completely different that Poe in the prior movie where he was calm, collected and rational. If they wanted a character to be hotheaded, introduce a new character.

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Forget the rebels, why build the death star(s) in the first place?

It’s easier, faster, and waaaaay more effective to just send a few dozen small ships throughout the galaxy with an extra hyperdrive or two to be ready to blow up any planet with some space junk. Any time. Any place. No centralized base for the rebels to stop.

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14 points

Agreed on both points. Poe was done dirty, the Holdo Maneuver is OP af, and the entire movie was designed to show off and put the director’s personal stamp on the franchise more than it was attempting to respect the lore and its audience.

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Didn’t Holdo’s plan involve modifying some spaceships so they wouldn’t be detected? Wouldn’t that involve engineers? Isn’t Rose and engineer? Why didn’t Rose know what Holdo’s plan was? Did Holdo also not tell the engineers her plan? Maybe that’s why half the ships got blown up by the First Order immediately.

That whole plotline made no sense and was completely pointless. But basically all of the plotlines were pointless in that movies.

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2 points

Wouldn’t be detected by sensors… which is irrelevant since the First Order ships had windows and they were within eyesight(!)

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4 points

I still have no idea what Snoke’s role was. F Rian Johnson.

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1 point

He just needs to stick to Knives Out and stay away from other franchises.

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20 points

If I had the chance to make edits to the script, I’d have done the following:

  • Replace the animals in the racing with podracers
  • Have the hacker guy drop the dreadnought’s shields for a moment to permit the Holdo manoeuvre

The podracer stuff is basically just fanservice, but it’s very minor and not adding any more distractions than were already there, so I think that’s fine

The hacker does have a motivation to ensure the empire doesn’t get a clean win. He profits from the war. He wants both sides to struggle. Doing this just as he leaves gives him an actual role beyond betraying Finn and Rose, makes sense for his motivations, and also explains why hyperspeed ramming doesn’t usually work in Star Wars

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These are good changes. Also I would suggest that they should have switched it to the Leia maneuver instead of Holdo, have her use the force to put Holdo to sleep or something to save her life. If I remember correctly Carrie Fisher had passed away while it was still in post production?

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Ahh, I forgot about that. I think they should have just committed to having Kylo Ren kill her. He pulled the trigger, after all, the intent was there.

I liked Holdo as a character. I believe she was meant to come across as overbearing and arrogant because part of her role was to teach Poe that his recklessness was doing as much harm as good. He had to learn to work with other people, and Holdo was the one to show him that. She had to be (initially) unlikeable so that Poe would chafe against her command

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7 points

More precisely: Anything in The Last Jedi

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