Google is weakening ad blockers as part of their MV3 extension standard and this will trickle down into all Chromium browsers. Built in ad blockers lack features compared to uBlock Origin as well.
Duh, Firefox. This is not a problem.
Great, they’re going to make browser exclusive content. Locked down even worse than it is. Intentional, not just lazy incompatibilities.
That doesn’t always work. Especially if Web Environment Integrity were to take hold.
I’ve recently switched to FF as my main browser, but I still need Chrome for some work things. And some people will want to stay on Chrome. So for them, this IS a problem.
Just dismissing it because other browsers exist isn’t helpful.
Yes it is. It’s not some unobtainable solution like you need to give 1/10 of your pay or giving away your freedom. It’s easy, free and almost painless solution that will solve your problems. You can’t try to cure your lung cancer and continue smoking.
You missing the part where some people still have to use Chrome for certain things?
Sneering about how they should use other browsers does not help them.
Nor is the lung cancer thing helpful, so much as it is an utterly absurd comparison.
Usually I sympathize with sentiments like this (“people use X because of uncontrolled circumstances”), but browsers are not one of them.
If you have a website that requires the use of Chrome, then just use Chrome for that website! It’s not an either-or thing – you can install both browsers and use Firefox as the primary one.
And some people will want to stay on Chrome.
And that’s what makes this statement so problematic. You don’t earn anything by staying exclusively on Chrome, when both it and Firefox can work alongside each other.
I am under the same predicament, but found that I can still use FF by spoofing the user agent on those “chrome only” websites. I don’t recall ever having an issue, but in case a specific functionality fails for you, all you gotta do is open up a chromium browser to sidestep the problem.
Thanks. My main issue is the lack of progressive web app ability in Firefox. I have my Outlook, Gmail, Keep, Calendar, Netflix and other sites set up that way, but can’t do it with FF.
I did hear that they might be working on adding it though, which would be great.
One, this isn’t some huge life defining dilemma, it’s a browser FFS.
And two, if people have to use Chrome, as is the case sometimes, then they did not make a choice, but are still subject to the changes being discussed.
Acting like some superior know-it-all is not helping anyone.
As a person who cares about css , it’s still a problem. There are so many cool features that everyone has implemented Firefox. I still use FF as my daily driver, because, as you said, duh, but every time I see new stuff added to the spec, I check MDN, and it’ll be all green except Firefox.
I mean, maybe if the Firefox/Chrome market share ratio inverts, ff will suddenly have a lot more pressure to keep up?
Everything else that has green are still chromium based? Then it’s basically just 1 that has it implemented one that hasn’t
That’s true, but, obviously there’s a market share difference between those two. And the fact that it’s ALWAYS ff that lags behind, it’s not like there’s cool things that ff can do that chrome can’t.
And, more importantly, there’s the browser I like (ff) which doesn’t do the thing, and the browsers I don’t like, which do.
FWIW tho, i don’t think OP will actually apply to ALL chromium browsers. I’ve been using Vivaldi when I cheat on Firefox, and none of the anti-adblock changes Google’s been making have impacted Vivaldi, and I assume that pattern will continue.
I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t even really care about new web features. It’s all come with so much shit that I can’t say the internet today is a better experience than it was back before marketers leaned into it so much and everyone wanting a piece of that data money drowned out much of the rest of it.
I’d take the current feature set with ad blocking and reader mode over any feature set without those. Well, reasonable feature sets. But then again, if I had the option of getting a star trek holodeck but had to let marketers regularly nag me about buying their shit any time I wanted to use it, I’d still be conflicted.
You have to remember that sometimes when that shiny new CSS feature comes out, it is underspecced, with unhandled corner cases – “just do what Chromium does” is not a standard – or is it? Having multiple implementations of a spec prove that it is interoperable - without that, you might have a good spec, or you might have a spec that says “whatever Chrome does is what is expected”. Not sure that is what we want from new CSS (or any) features.
You make a compelling point, for sure. There are definitely features that fall into that category (eg page transitions), there are a lot of other things coming out these days that just make life easier.
For example, in chrome (and in the spec) you can now animate between ‘height: [number]’ and ‘height:auto;’ just the other day, I had to write a python function to estimate the highest of a menu based on its length * the line height of the list items, so I could provide an exact height to animate to. It works, but it’s hacky and gross. It would be nice to have access to the solution.
