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@cm0002 @ByteOnBikes yes, but the idea that EVā€™s solve things makes people think it is okay to not be all in on PT.

And itā€™s not okay.

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Can you point at one person who thinks that?

Or is this whole thing just about making up arguments and then attacking them to sow division between people who would otherwise be united against fossil fuels?

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@bstix Elon Musk

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Even he is pro-fossil despite his ownership of one of the largest EV manufacturers. I really donā€™t think his motives are entirely clear. Looking at the Cybertruck I would argue that heā€™s actually trying to destroy EVs, just as he caused distraction from public transport with his Boring company project. In my opinion, he definitely belongs to the second group, who is arguing and even doing things in bad faith.

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