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Or maybe those are actually obstructions getting in the way of the majority of the party that actively pushes for that stuff consistently?

You’re alleging a party leadership conspiracy that would necessarily be of a size surpassing when a conspiracy will naturally collapse and be outed by its own members trying to save their own skin.

This isn’t apologism, it’s a mathematically proven fact of how conspiracies and secret keeping work.

Occam’s razer, a big tent coalition party is naturally going to have at least one or two contrarian assholes and as a result needs to overperform winning mere simple majorities to be able to achieve the most points of their agenda.

We could turn around and call the Squad rotating villains for some of their symbolic votes against party policy, but we don’t because those votes were rendered symbolic by there being a wide enough margin for those bills to pass anyways.

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bro you don’t have to have a conspiracy when your interests converge. where is this majority that’s pushing for actual change and not just talking about it for campaign purposes?

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Check the vote roles every time a bill’s come up?

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every time a bill’s come up?

You say that as if a substantial portion of the fuckery (in general – not about the Democrats or this issue specifically) isn’t in the form of procedural machinations to stop things from coming up for a vote in the first place.

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dude you’re the one making the argument. you’re going to have to at least tell me what bills you’re talking about

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They didn’t codify Roe vs Wade when Obama had a supermajority, they could’ve raised the minimum wage any time between the 90s and now, etc.

They want to keep things on the table in order to be able to run on them.

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You mean that super majority that lasted only long enough to get the Affordable Care Act done and even then only after like ten Joe Manchins had to be appeased first?

The dems have had all three branches for maybe ten percent of all that time since the 90s and even then only barely.

This would not be a problem if y’all spent half the energy turning out that you do complaining about what happened because everyone else did.

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You mean that super majority that lasted only long enough to get the Affordable Care Act done and even then only after like ten Joe Manchins had to be appeased first?

You say that as if they can’t work on more than one piece of legislation at a time. They have aides and staffers! They have the manpower to do two things at once!

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