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Fascism is sociologically rooted in the sexual insecurity of men. That’s why it’s always men driving it.

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Fascism is Capitalism in decline. Masculinity is a recognized part of fascism, but fascism is rooted in Capitalist decay, not in moral failures of men.

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Fascism is capitalism when the capitalist class gets too successful, as soon as the capitalists realize they can establish fascism they always do.

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Not quite. Fascism occurs when disparity rises, the petite bourgeoisie are being proletarianized, and collaborates with the bourgeoisie against rising class awareness and leftism among the Proletariat and Lumpenproletariat. It isn’t a symptom of success, but a defense mechanism.

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Women live in the same declining capitalistic society as men, yet they are far more resistant to fascism. That’s not to say there is something wrong with men or masculinity. Society puts different pressures on men and women so they react differently.

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Masculinity by your argument is also rooted in the development of vaccines, all of the aspects of technological progress, and also all progressive social movements that have resulted in more equitable distribution of political power, ie voting rights act, giving women the vote, etc.

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I mean, if history lessons in Italy taught me anything, the ‘super uomo D’Annunziano’, “D’annunzio” and the original italian ‘fascism’ are pretty much linked.

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Do you have a reason to think this or did it just sound good in your head

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There is a ton of academic interest in the relationship between sexuality and fascism. It was first noted in “The Mass Psychology of Fascism” by Wilhelm Reich after WW2. My comment is, of course, a massive oversimplification of a complex social dynamic.

It’s the same dynamic that made US racists paranoid that black men wanted to rape white women when, in fact, their deeper fear was that white women wanted to have sex with black men. Fascists are particularly sensitive to sexual relations between “their women” and whomever they have chosen to blame for all their misfortunes.

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So facism is mens fault? I wonder how that effects a young man who isnt a facist while they are developing? Ur narrative is actively harming young men and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.

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No, it’s not “men’s” fault, but the people who’s fault it is are primarily men. That’s not an opinion, that’s just history, not to mention what’s happening before our eyes. Even women who are fascist push patriarchy. There is no point in debating whether fascism is primarily a male driven phenomenon. The only legitimate question is why?

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Your misconstruing the statement. Fascism is a way for insecure men to feel powerful. These men are feeling insecure due to lack of job prospects, lack of honest to God to physical insecurity, and that also makes them less desirable to potential mates.

The way to protect against fascism is to ensure proper addressing of Maslow‘s-goddamn-hierarchy of needs. Endstage, capitalism leads to fascism, but it has to secure itself in spreading racism and sexism.

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I knew it as soon as I read your ‘Tate is right’ bullshit.

So facism is mens fault?

Yes. Men had all the political power in the countries that turned to fascism in the past. If you knew any history this would be obvious.

I wonder how that effects a young man who isnt a facist while they are developing?

The same way that one woman having an abortion harms another woman; not at all.

Ur narrative is actively harming young men and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.

It’s room temperature IQ weakling reactionaries like you that are harming young men. Real men stand against fascists.

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Yes. Men had all the political power in the countries that turned to fascism in the past. If you knew any history this would be obvious.

this is kind of meaningless to point out, since men also had the power in every country that turned towards socialism, gave or took away rights, started and ended wars, etc.

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I knew it as soon as I read your ‘Tate is right’ bullshit.

So men have no issues and the only reason men are listening to tate is cos they are hatfull evil bastards?

Yes. Men had all the political power in the countries that turned to fascism in the past. If you knew any history this would be obvious.

Im so happy to learn that women didnt go along with fascism or support it in any way. If u knew anything about history u’d have heard of Magda Goebbels, Irma Grese, Eva Braun, Margaret Harker, Yukiko Sugishita etc.

The same way that one woman having an abortion harms another woman; not at all.

Abortions are about the liberty to do with onself as one wishes, what does this got to do with u blaming men for fascism? Having your gender (something where most people derive a majority of their identity) blamed for the entirety of facism and its hanouse actions isnt exactly fair or a good way to raise a child.

It’s room temperature IQ weakling reactionaries like you that are harming young men. Real men stand against fascists.

This is bad faith child-like insults not a civilised discussion of ideas undertaken by real adults. I stand against fascists and i will not let you paint me as one.

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The only possible explanation for any of this is that men are bad and we should definitely not examine the underlying causes and material conditions at all.

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Great idea im sure them killing themselves at record rates must be an anomoly.

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