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I didn’t mean “sitting in a garage not getting used”, I meant “getting used, but not getting in an unpredictable accident”

Accidents are an additional variable outside of what the original article is talking about

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Ah so you’re still talking about some hypothetical situation where EVs get used but don’t have to deal with real world driving issues.

Yes in that very specific hypothetical situation an EV may outlast an ICE. However the ICE is getting no damage either in this world. So who can say.

However Renault saying they will last longer than ICE because the batteries aren’t aging as badly as they thought is still completely untrue. Far more issues with long term EV ownership than just battery age.

When we have some 20 year plus EVs with hundreds of thousands of miles on them still driving around then maybe that will be true.

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Far more issues with long term EV ownership than just battery age

Would you care to elaborate and show a reasonably credible source backing up whatever you think is such a big problem?

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Ah so now it’s elaboration and credible sources.

I’m already one up on this with an article from the FT about insurance costs being higher due to the increased likelihood of an electric car write off.

How about some actual evidence they’re more reliable? Other than your bizarre hypothetical arguments.

Here’s a couple just off the top of my head that I can’t be bothered to get links for.

Tied to the dealer. There’s very few independent EV garages. 95% of the time you’ll have to take the price for any repair they offer you. You can’t shop around.

Complexity. Although they often use the “one moving part” argument with all the extra infrastructure for charging etc they can have very bespoke electric parts. Which means no simple of the shelf pattern parts that are as good for much less. Dealer parts only.

Delay in these parts. There just isn’t enough of a parts infrastructure at the moment. This can even cover simple things like lights or trim.

Not enough technicians.

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