Clearly, Google is serious about trying to oust ad blockers from its browser, or at least those extensions with fuller (V2) levels of functionality. One of the crucial twists with V3 is that it prevents the use of remotely hosted code – as a security measure – but this also means ad blockers can’t update their filter lists without going through Google’s review process. What does that mean? Way slower updates for said filters, which hampers the ability of the ad-blocking extension to keep up with the necessary changes to stay effective.

(This isn’t just about browsers, either, as the war on advert dodgers extends to YouTube, too, as we’ve seen in recent months).

At any rate, Google is playing with fire here somewhat – or Firefox, perhaps we should say – as this may be the shove some folks need to get them considering another of the best web browsers out there aside from Chrome. Mozilla, the maker of Firefox, has vowed to maintain support for V2 extensions, while introducing support for V3 alongside to give folks a choice (now there’s a radical idea).

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10 points

Until you actually need a chromium based browser. I get so annoyed when this happens.

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I’ve had that once, as well as some websites running inexplicably slow on FF.

I changed my user agent to a recent Chrome one and that solved it issue.
Moral of the story? Websites are discriminating.

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27 points

Almost 20 years and I’ve never needed a Chromium browser for anything. I’m sorry you were forced to use such garbage ass software.

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I have chromium installed for the sole reason to cast some streams to my remote TVs. Otherwise it stays closed. I tried some work around with FF, but I couldn’t get it to work. It’s only once or twice a week for live sporting events, so I can stomach it.

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I understand where you’re coming from. It’s never happened to me, but if a website didn’t work with Firefox, I would just assume it’s a shit site ran by rookies who know nothing, and move on to a different site. I understand most people don’t have that kind of principle though.

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There’s still Vivali which is Chromium based and still supporting V2 extension (like uBlock) until June 2025. Its not a full fix, but its a stay of execution. That said, I’m a FF primary user.

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5 points

I see Vivaldi, I upvote.

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0 points

I have no idea why people are downvoting it.

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2 points

I’m already mad about having to potentially abandon my highly customized Vivaldi should ublock lite not work up to my standards

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-4 points

Vivaldi isn’t entirely open source, if that matters to you.

Brave would be my recommendation, I just disable the crypto stuff.

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1 point

Brave is a series scam company.

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3 points

Roughly 92% of the browser’s code is open source coming from Chromium, 3% is open source coming from us, which leaves only 5% for our UI closed-source code.

https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/

Only the UI part is not open source.

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Brave’s CEO is so anti-gay, he dished out 4-figure checks to fight gayness.

I’m not a fan of that, and Brave has issues with being Chromium-based, like Vivaldi.

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In what situation do you need one?

I’ve been using Firefox for over a decade and have literally never once needed to open a different web browser. For anything, ever. This is a very common complaint that tons of people seem to have that I have never seen happen even once out in the wild.

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I use Librewolf on desktop and Mull on mobile. I have a few extensions on both, which could definitely contribute to issues. When I have issues (usually government sites or financial stuff, sometimes DRM-related stuff for media) it’s easier to just use a Chromium-based browser with no extensions than try to troubleshoot specifically what’s causing the issues. I keep Falkon (desktop) and Vanadium (mobile) installed for this purpose.

I get the feeling a lot of issues people are having in Firefox might be due to extensions or settings, which gets “fixed” by using another browser (which happens to be Chromium-based because most browsers are) and they blame the issue on Firefox itself.

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6 points

Flashing ESPhome devices. I just had to re-flash one via serial the other day and it requires chrome AFAIK.

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12 points

I also use Firefox on my work computer, I need to quickly authorize a login in the browser before the local “app” opens (“app” because it’s just a webpage pretending to be an app) and I just recently got a notification that slack won’t support Firefox anymore so please switch to chrome. The fucking animals.

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1 point

Probably slack is going to have to be ditched on the grounds they have decided to ditch Firefox.

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13 points

Sounds like Salesforce acting like Salesforce.

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Firefox is getting so small it’s starting to disappear out of the testing matrix. Confluence has issues with it, you can’t always log into Vanguard on Firefox, many news website layouts have overlapping elements on Firefox, quite a few shopping websites too (H&M in Europe has a long-standing but with putting stuff in the shopping basket until they revamped their website a couple of months ago). Etc etc. I see it ALL the time.

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Several government websites for the state of Pennsylvania complain and refuse to work if they detect that you aren’t using chrome/edge/safari.

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8 points

You can spoof your useragent to appear as chrome. And you should as it makes your browser less “unique”

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6 points

Do the sites work if you use an extension that lies to them about what browser you are using?

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2 points

If people used other browsers, then the market share would change and this would become less and less of a problem.

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4 points

I already use Firefox full time and recommend others do as well.

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3 points

Chromium isn’t as problematic as Chrome.

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10 points

As if installing and using something else means you can’t have Chrome lying around for that one stupid website.

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And I do. Sometimes I’ll just fire up Edge if Chrome isn’t installed since it’s chromium based.

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constantly, to be honest

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