There have been at least 50 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 19. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 37 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 24 people dead and at least 66 other victims injured, according to CNN’s analysis of events reported by the Gun Violence Archive, Education Week and Everytown for Gun Safety.
https://www.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg/index.html
What source should be used?
And was there more than one school shooting this year? Because that’s one more than almost every other Western country.
I’m not sure why you’re trying to downplay this problem.
Edit: Don’t bother reading below for a source. They don’t give one. They’re just here to troll.
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/school-shootings?page=1
Have a go through there. You’re literally putting republican logic to your statement…“who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere”…
Facts matter when discussing these topics, because they are what’s used to create/shape laws. If laws are built upon lies, like the patriot act, then the law was not created with the right goals in mind.
You’re literally putting republican logic to your statement…“who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere”…
That is a disgusting lie. I said nothing of the sort.
I’m literally doing the opposite of that since I asked you what source should be used.
Then I asked you if there was more than one.
I didn’t say anything even remotely like, “who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere.”
You should be ashamed of yourself with trolling this shitty.
I should have realized you’d lie about what I said in direct response to the thing I said yet again since this is the third or fourth time you’ve done it.
Oh, and now it’s time for you to tell the lie that I want to ban guns. You’ve done that one before.
That is a disgusting lie. I said nothing of the sort.
You did. You’re downplaying the fact that the GVA uses junk data to drive an agenda.
I’m literally doing the opposite of that since I asked you what source should be used.
By using the next line of:
Then I asked you if there was more than one.
Which implies that. Who cares as if there is more than one it’s the same problem. Which is not the case at all, if we had thousands of kids being killed constantly in school, that’s a totally different issue than if we had one outlier shooting every year.
I didn’t say anything even remotely like, “who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere.”
You pretty much did. You are equally giving weight to false numbers.
You should be ashamed of yourself with trolling this shitty.
You clearly don’t understand trolling, at this point you should know I’m not a troll.
I should have realized you’d lie about what I said in direct response to the thing I said yet again since this is the third or fourth time you’ve done it.
Sure thing, totally… you’re all about the truth and you really are for legislation that’ll actually fix the problem, not emotionally driven legislation, because even 1 school shooting is the same as 50…
Oh, and now it’s time for you to tell the lie that I want to ban guns. You’ve done that one before.
The end goal is always, a ban from the anti2a crowd. Making something so damn impossible to obtain, is a defacto ban. Just remember that those who put the rules in place, will make sure minorities, LGBTQ+, and women will be the main ones unable to obtain firearms.
They’re all in one link. They don’t have a distinction. That’s why the data is shit
Sorry bud, I do usually agree with you, but I think you might be in the wrong on this one. Why don’t you find the NPR article convincing that maybe these numbers are might be inflated (edit: didn’t mean to use a declarative statement there)? Are you contending that NPR is misrepresenting the numbers and/or trying to push an agenda? They don’t really have a track record of either as far as I’m aware.
edit 2: leaving this because it’s still true:
Looking at the actual scope of an issue isn’t downplaying it. Nor is checking if the reporting is accurate. And accurate reporting (of data, I mean, as opposed to news) is extremely important when passing laws, so it is something to care about.
FFS! I never said the numbers weren’t inflated! I asked for a better source! They refused to give one.
edit: clarified my misunderstanding
If you want a better source, that’s fine; I don’t have one, I’m not that other guy and I’m not trying to prove anything myself. I just want to know what’s wrong with NPR as a source, or what’s wrong with that particular article.
I think you might be taking issue with the fact that this guy wants to say the Gun Violence Archive counts non-shooting incidents as shootings? He’s wrong, they don’t; that GVA link points to “school incidents”, where even finding a gun is counted. CNN’s methodology for counting seems reasonable.
