There have been at least 50 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 19. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 37 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 24 people dead and at least 66 other victims injured, according to CNN’s analysis of events reported by the Gun Violence Archive, Education Week and Everytown for Gun Safety.

https://www.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg/index.html

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I don’t see the gva anywhere in that article and the numbers in the CNN article are pretty close to the numbers NPR was able to verify

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It’s literally in the first paragraph:

There have been at least 50 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 19. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 37 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 24 people dead and at least 66 other victims injured, according to CNN’s analysis of events reported by the Gun Violence Archive, Education Week and Everytown for Gun Safety.

And if you read the article from NPR and look at the data from GVA, you will see a pattern of school shootings that aren’t school shootings, but are counted as such because they happened near a school or some other reason.

An example is a pellet gun being used to shoot out the window on a school bus on the weekend…do you think that should be counted as a school shooting? I hope you don’t.

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What source should be used?

And was there more than one school shooting this year? Because that’s one more than almost every other Western country.

I’m not sure why you’re trying to downplay this problem.

Edit: Don’t bother reading below for a source. They don’t give one. They’re just here to troll.

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https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/school-shootings?page=1

Have a go through there. You’re literally putting republican logic to your statement…“who cares if it’s false, as long as there is a bit of truth somewhere”…

Facts matter when discussing these topics, because they are what’s used to create/shape laws. If laws are built upon lies, like the patriot act, then the law was not created with the right goals in mind.

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Sorry bud, I do usually agree with you, but I think you might be in the wrong on this one. Why don’t you find the NPR article convincing that maybe these numbers are might be inflated (edit: didn’t mean to use a declarative statement there)? Are you contending that NPR is misrepresenting the numbers and/or trying to push an agenda? They don’t really have a track record of either as far as I’m aware.

edit 2: leaving this because it’s still true:

Looking at the actual scope of an issue isn’t downplaying it. Nor is checking if the reporting is accurate. And accurate reporting (of data, I mean, as opposed to news) is extremely important when passing laws, so it is something to care about.

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Frankly, it doesn’t matter what is and what is not counted as a school shooting. If one shooting happens, and one child is murdered-

It’s one too fucking many.

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More kids die getting to school, more die from drowning, more die from preventable diseases…the only reason one is to many for you in this instance is because you hate the idea of an armed populous. It’s not about the deaths, it’s about how they die.

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They’ve already been trounced for pulling up a 6 year old article using 8 year old data.

Then they doggedly refused to do the math for recent years that there’s literally a school shooting every week in the US.

And that doesn’t even touch mass shootings in general.

The really sad part is they do eventually make a point that a lot of the problem is mental health and America’s obsession with gun violence. But simply refusing to even admit to the actual frequency of the shootings or that the availability of guns is part of the issue means they’ll continue to be ignored.

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