Not the best thesis, but people should have kids and more of them. That’s not open for debate.
I’ll debate it. The world would be way better off with about 6 billion less people in the world.
Edit: My apologies. I am NOT advocating for eugenics, mass murder, or anything else. My thought of having fewer people is wishful thinking of what a better world would be like if we simply never got to 7 billion people in the first place.
I’m so done with this garbage random eugenics idea that the world should have exactly 1 billion people on it like some pseudoscience perfect number.
Its not a debate if you use feeling and lack any reasoning to get to your starting position.
There world is not some incapable small bubble that can only support some racist perfect population size of your desires.
Whoa, wanting less people via having fewer kids isn’t eugenics, it’s wishful thinking. I don’t subscribe to the idea of forcing people to have fewer kids.
Edit: I can see how it sounds like I am advocating for eugenics in my earlier post. I will update it.
I don’t think Eugenics or racist is the correct ideas to use here. Less population just means smaller. Not a specific phenotype of human needs to be culled from existance. Just a smaller population.
All biological systems have population limits, and lots of evidence points that humans have passed those limits by quite a bit. Normally, there would be a population collapse due to food scarcity, but humans are capable of pushing those limits with agurcultural science. That doesn’t mean that there are not huge determental effects on the world as a whole for there being an never ending exponential growth of people.
because we artificially increased the amount of food that we produce by doping the very Earth with poison.
to be clear, this only really changes the amount of food produced from a specific harvest, GMO foods are what you are closest to here, but those have very few downsides.
The primary issue here is centralized farming, if we were to decentralize it more, it would be vastly more economical.
LOL 😂
If you want more kids make a world where raising kids is easier, safer, and more affordable. Just stating “That’s not open for debate” is such an idiotic non-answer to the problem of people not wanting to have kids. There are reason people feel this way. Fix those reasons and people might feel differently. Not me, but other people would.
| not me
ok so why raise issues about easier, safer, more afforable if they’re not your reasons?
Because I have loved ones that are living in this world and it matters to them, therefore it matters to me.
No one needs to have kids ever, the world will be fine. That’s not open for debate. Also, I deserve all the money, chocolate, and sex in the world, that’s not open for debate. I like this game!
That’s not open for debate.
I mean, it clearly is. That’s a big reason we’re seeing conservative leap on the “No Abortions!” bandwagon. They’re genuinely convinced of White Replacement Theory and have bought into this argument compelling women to have more children.
The orthodox pro-lifers are winning this fight by leveraging the military power of the state to compel pregnancy.
We need to learn to take care of the ones who are already here before we start making more. That’s not open for debate.
Personally, I think the solution of “not enough kids” mirrors that of a law proposed decades ago: if a citizen votes in favor of going to war, they’re automatically drafted should war be declared.
Republicans/Conservatives the world over want abortion banned, right? Cool, you vote to ban it, you’re automatically added to a list to adopt children who cannot be aborted. The individual gets no say in when the adoption happens, they have no say in gender/ethnicity/etc, the government shows up, hands them a baby, and that’s now their child. Government can do weekly/regular checks to ensure the child is being raised well enough and that the parent is home enough to watch them. And no limit on how many kids end up in your lap, either.
Oh, that doesn’t work with your work schedule/life schedule/etc? Too bad, you wanted to save the unborn babies, now save them. You can’t afford 13 newborns all at once? Sure sounds like a you problem, since you didn’t support any of the things to make the lives of children better, like abortion/contraception/sex ed, childcare subsidies, school lunch programs, etc.
Problem solved: Conservative Christians get to save all the babies, people can still keep making them without fear of it hindering their lives, and the population continues to grow so the capitalist machine can be fed.
people should have kids and more of them
Seems like a personal choice. I can name plenty of people who are trying to have kids and can’t. And more than a few who didn’t try to have kids but got them anyway. I also see a lot of kids showing up in foster programs, homeless shelters, and prisons.
Perhaps the problem isn’t that we don’t have enough kids. Perhaps we’re just doing a shit job of caring for the kids who already exist.
