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Btw can RH as the biggest contributor to systemd make it paid like it did with RHEL? Then it’s going to be the death of the free and independent Linux desktop for quite a while.

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Don’t spread lies, misinformation and/or FUD.

Btw can RH as the biggest contributor to systemd make it paid like it did with RHEL?

It’s not. They’ve only made it harder for other parties to freely benefit from RHEL’s hard work at the expense of RHEL.

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Don’t spread lies, misinformation and/or FUD.

Uhm what? I asked a question bruh.

They’ve only made it harder for other parties to freely benefit from RHEL’s hard work

True but they still can find something to hurt everyone. Not like I think it will happen but it is a problem with centralization and a company being behind a big and important product.

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Uhm what? I asked a question bruh.

The bold parts include a false claim; i.e. Red Hat made RHEL paid.. So it’s perfectly possible to include a lie, piece of misinformation and/or straight up FUD within a question.

True but they still can find something to hurt everyone. Not like I think it will happen but it is a problem with centralization and a company being behind a big and important product.

I agree with you that Red Hat is indeed way too powerful in this realm. Hence, there will inevitably always be the fear that they might (somehow) misuse their power. So far, they’ve been mostly benevolent and I hope it will stay that way. There’s no fault at being cautious, but this should never lead us towards toxic behavior.

EDIT: Why the downvotes?

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If IBM makes redhat do something that greedy and stupid (it’d be more likely to happen with a distribution like fedora or centos than userland components), we have plenty of existing infrastructure to fall back on.

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(it’d be more likely to happen with a distribution like fedora or centos than userland components

I mean, if they make an actual workstation distro and kill systemd’s real FOSS nature, everyone else will have to spend some time rebuilding their distros with other init systems. That’ll be quite a sabotage.

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You are not wrong. IBM management paralleled in the same cash-grab and exit C-suite functions that has consumed Redhat. That is why the merger happened.

Soon, Purple Hat should be charging for systemd and hopefully other corpos and organizations will move back to sanity.

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Soon, Purple Hat should be charging for systemd and hopefully other corpos and organizations will move back to sanity.

From systemd licenses readme:

Unless otherwise noted, the systemd project sources are licensed under the terms and conditions of LGPL-2.1-or-later (GNU Lesser General Public License v2.1 or later).

New sources that cannot be distributed under LGPL-2.1-or-later will no longer be accepted for inclusion in the systemd project to maintain license uniformity.

I can understand critism of systemd for its tools only working with itself and not with any other Unix tools. But it’s absolutely a conspiracy theory to think they’d want to charge for systemd. Though I do agree that if someone was charging for systemd (which they can’t because its open source), open source alternatives would pop up.

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RedHat is not restricting access to any upstream project. They package things in extremely stable form, which means they need to manage like all the software themselves and do tons of backports, as normally software just releases new versions.

They restrict access to these packages.

So yes, their 5 years old systemd with backported security fixes may be restricted. But not the normal systemd you can install anywhere.

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No, it’s licensed under the LGPL, which means source code can be freely distributed and distros would continue to package it for free no matter how hard Redhat tried to paywall it.

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