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Proton VPN and proton pass

IRRC they even removed all telemetry from pass but not VPN.

They should definitely push drive and calendar there too.

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Why the fuck does their VPN have telemetry?

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Telemetry is not bad in itself. It can be used for bug/crash reports, or usage statistics, without tracking or personal data collection.

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I’m curious, any advice on that? How does one do “good” telemetry? I’m the first to complain about Microsoft, Apple, (even worst) Google, Meta and now OpenAI collecting data to sell me stuff… but it’s true that also some data is needed to get some kind of introspection in terms of usage. Developers need to understand what is actually happening with the software they develop.

Now I’m wondering specifically about 2 side :

  • how to do the data collection correctly (e.g local only, only send on crash, only send without PII, store only aggregate)
  • how to get informed consent from users (e.g off by default, UX that supports understanding of why it’s done and how)

I’m genuinely glad that the mindset around privacy have changed since the last few years but I’m wondering how, when it’s a genuinely positive good case (to truly make better products), to do it.

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It’s a VPN! What did you expected? /hj

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