Valve Engineer Mike Blumenkrantz Hoping To Accelerate Wayland Protocol Development(www.phoronix.com)

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Metz@lemmy.world

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8 days ago

what desktop environment? what you described works perfectly on KDE. i have 3 monitors here and they work flawless in any arbitrary combination or orientation under wayland. side-by-side or on top of each other or even diagonal. with different resolutions and different refresh rates. with taskbars on any number of monitors and any orientation. maybe Debians KDE version is just very outdated. the 6+ versions work fantastic.

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lemmyvore@feddit.nl

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8 days ago

Ok but it’s not called Kdeland.

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Markaos@lemmy.one

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8 days ago

OK but Wayland is not responsible for arranging monitors

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lemmyvore@feddit.nl

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8 days ago

If Wayland is so fragile as to only work with KDE, and is not responsible for anything, how long until it’s relegated to a KDE internal subsystem?

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Markaos@lemmy.one

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8 days ago

But Wayland isn’t a thing on its own, there’s no “Wayland server” or anything else equivalent to the X server. The compositors like Kwin or GNOME’s Mutter are Wayland implementations fully responsible for handling the display output.

You can blame Wayland for the lack of universally supported global hotkeys or for issues with apps that need to know exactly where on the screen they are - these are issues with the protocol - but not for bugs in one compositor’s implementation of display management.

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lemmyvore@feddit.nl

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8 days ago

That’s exactly the problem. Wayland is a set of standards, more akin to FreeDesktop.Org than to X. It lives and dies by its implementations, and it’s so utterly dependent on them that “KDE Wayland” has started to become its own thing. KDE are pretty much forging ahead alone nowadays and when they make changes it becomes the way to do it. Also what they do can’t be shared with other desktops because they’d have to use KDE’s own subsystems and become dependent on its whims.

It wasn’t supposed to be “Kdeland” and “Gnomeland” but that’s what it’s slowly becoming. We’re looking at major fragmentation of the Linux desktop because desktop teams have and do stop seeing eye to eye on major issues all the time. And because there’s no central implementation to keep them working together they’re free to do their own thing.

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