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without alan turing the modern era would not be the way it is. In the same way that without tesla the modern electrical grid simply would not be the same as it is today.

These people didn’t do it alone, nobody does it alone, but without these people things would be substantially different. It’s a steve jobs type influence.

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I was with you till you said Steve Jobs. Jobs was only good at abusing his employees and marketing.

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regardless, apple did still completely redefine the entire mobile phone space.

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