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-18 points

Fuck this platform.

Fuck mandatory DRM.

Fuck the garbage runtime that takes minutes to start every time I wanna play a goddamn single player game.

Fuck mandatory updates every time I want to play a goddamn single player game.

Fuck popup advertisements for events that reappear year by year no matter how many times I’ve disabled them

This platform prevents you from owning anything…

I don’t know how anyone could support this garbage.

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7 points

If like you say Steam is only garbage, make a list of good alternative.

  • Epic Game (worst)

    • Launcher -> horrible and worst than Steam. Actually you can use heroic games launcher (less problems)
    • Store -> really bad
    • DRM
    • Need update to play game
    • Only Windows / Mac (i don’t care about mobile for the small amount of game)
    • Not version for Linux and Tim Sweeney not like Linux and say a big amount of stupidity.
    • Doesn’t have all the tools and feature for dev like Steam
    • No Workshop alternative
  • Gog (need more game and feature)

    • Gog galaxy (latest test in 2022) -> good launcher but no Linux version
    • Games for Windows, Linux, Mac
    • Not all game can be found here because it’s only DRM free game
    • Doesn’t have all the tools and feature for dev like Steam
    • No Workshop alternative

From what i can see, Steam is not perfect but it’s better than Epic for sure, and have more feature and game than Gog. I don’t include itch because for me it’s not a gaming store.

If anyone have another store, or want to correct anything.

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2 points

What about… Physical media? Like, ordering a dvd from amazon with your game on it that you then play on a machine that’s not even connected to the Internet?

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I see some problem with physical media :

  • Storage: ~100Go (Blu-ray), ~5Go on DVD
    • For all the non opti game who take more than 100Go of space ? Multiple DVD/Blu-ray ?
  • Update: actually if a game need a update how to do this ?
    • Download a zip file to apply the patch ? Possibility to directly write the patch on the DVD/Blu-ray for future install ?

If we use DVD/Blu-ray we need a player to install the game (I really prefer to have one on my computer/laptop than nothing, but it’s not how things work now 😭).

I totally prefer the physical media, but it’s not perfect. To have something easy for consumer, the game industry need to do some change like : opti the game size, find a good method to update the game, and no DRM on the physical media.

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I remember the physical media PC game days. At the end, the games had horrible copy protection/DRM. I remember not having an internet connection for a while and I went to buy a game that I could play. All the games on the shelf had a notice on the box that said “internet connection required”. Single player games needed to be activated, and if you ran out of activations you either had to contact the company to reset it or you were shit outta luck. I far prefer the combination of Steam and GoG.

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Gog could use more games but if it’s between using a platform that forces you to use a runtime and nothing at all, I’d much rather play nothing at all.

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14 points

Steam forces games to have DRM?

I guess i didnt notice the DRM of the games installed from steam that i was able to play without steam installed

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5 points

Steam does not force DRM

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I assume it does force DRM. I can’t play Terraria, skyrim, elder ring, etc. without it. I have not encountered one release which I can play without the runtime.

Terraria in particular shouldn’t use it unless it was forced to do so based off the fact that they’re available on gog which mandates games be drm free.

I’m not even allowed to run that game without updating it if it’s out of date. I literally can’t play a modded game because it may be rendered unplayable at any moment by the publisher. Makes the whole workshop people talk up all but useless.

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As far as i know, terraria has DRM because it uses steam features(for multiplayer)

Celeste and stardew valley dont have DRM so its not forced

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afaik, steam drm is optional and its the devs decision to use it or not. thats why there is actually a list of games that are hosted on steam without DRM.

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Found Tim Sweeney.

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